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My "woke" concerns have less to do with forced gender roles and more to do with irrelevant pandering or virtue signaling. Alien has always been one of the pioneers for paving the way for strong female lead characters and I love it - there's also something to be said for the significance of the female aspect, life and creation that remaind a prevalent undertone throughout the Alien saga.
No, I'm all for strong, badass, female leads. What I don't need from an Alien movie are unrealistic / forced / irrelevant romantic back stories if they lend nothing to the development of the plot. Filler content for the sake of appeasing a minority of viewers. Evil corporations are fine - albeit more of an actual issue to be explored.
That's all, I just hope the Alien film is an Alien film and not another franchise poisoned by forced indoctrination to an ideology not everyone agrees with.
" this material can only be space titanium."
(Professor Miyajima)
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 1974
UPDATE 3/11/2023:
It seems Shin Ultraman finished higher than we thought. World of KJ via Kogyotsushin reports the final number for the Japanese Academy Award winning film was 4.44 Billion Yen ($34.2 Million) and 2.99 Million in attendance. (RIGHT at 3.0 Million.)
It ended its run as 9th highest grossing film of the year. It is the 6th highest grossing domestic Japanese film of the year and #2 highest grossing live-action Japanese film of the year. It is the 9th highest opening of the year.
“The scent of a story fans my creative flames.”
- Goro Maki, Son of Godzilla (1967)
"Well anyway, neither Beast nor man. Something monstrous. All powerful. Still living. Still holding that island in a grip of deadly fear."
-Carl Denham, King Kong (1933)
"We're millionaires, boys. I'll share it with all of you. Why, in a few months, it'll be up in lights on Broadway: Kong, the Eighth Wonder of the World."
-Carl Denham, King Kong (1933)
"Oh no, it wasn't the airplanes. It was beauty killed the beast."
-Carl Denham, King Kong (1933)
"His ship had run aground on an island way west of Sumatra. An island hidden in fog. He spoke of a huge wall... built so long ago... no one knew who'd made it. A wall 100 foot high... as strong today as it was ages ago."
-Lumpy, King Kong (2005)
"Kong's a pretty good king. Keeps to himself, mostly. This is his home, we're just guests. But you don't go into someone's house and start dropping bombs, unless you're picking a fight."
-Hank Marlow, Kong: Skull Island
"Kong's god on the island, but the devils live below us."
-Hank Marlow, Kong: Skull Island
The game features immersive gameplay that emphasizes survival and trickery. The player must navigate the environments stealthily and use their ingenuity to evade the alien and other dangers lurking.
Very good game. Atmosphere very faithful to the film and scary. Not a classic FPS In the sense that we are generally prey and it's more about surviving than winning...
"That's a lot of fish."
Nick Tatopoulos, Godzilla (1998)
I'm sorry, I had to... :)
"Today we face the monsters that are at our door and bring the fight to them! Today we're cancelling the apocalypse"
-Pacific Rim (2013) Stacker Pentecost
"Nature has a way sometimes of reminding man of just how small he is. She occasionally throws up the terrible offsprings of our pride and carelessness, to remind us of how puny we really are in the face of a tornado, an earthquake, or a Godzilla. The reckless ambitions of man are often dwarfed by their dangerous consequences. For now, Godzilla, that strangely innocent and tragic monster, has gone to Earth. Whether he returns or not, or is never again seen by human eyes, the things he has taught us remain."
— Steve Martin, Godzilla 1985 (1985)
“You have your girlfriends and I have this. Let’s get back and enjoy our pleasures.”
- Yoshimura, Ebirah, Horror of the Deep (1966)
"Godzilla and Biollante aren't monsters. It's the unscrupulous scientists who create them who are monsters."
(Dr. Shiragami)
Godzilla vs. Biollante 1989
Oh great another Its all James Cameron fault fan. Without Cameron, ALIEN would have faded in to obscurity
"I have a great idea! In the name of great britian, we will send guilala to hell!... where he belongs!"
-British Prime Minister Master Pie Brightman, monster x strikes back: attack the g8 summit (2008)
Of course we will never get to know what happened to David and all those embryos .. a 2nd time fans are let down .. good job disney ..
Ridley Scott went to Disney, farted , pouted, said he made them and many millions and that he won't allow another Ripleys story arc ... screw the fans , I'm still sore from Cameron overtaking my masterpiece .. you all allowed this to happen... no fans get together anymore and demand what the fans want so we have no say..
RIPLEY: Mother! I've turned the cooling unit back on. Mother!
MUTHUR: The ship will automatically destruct in T minus five minutes.
RIPLEY: You... BITCH!
ALIEN (1979)
"What the Hell are you?"
"WHAT.. THE.. HELL.. ARE.. YOU? ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... MUHAHAHAHAA... HAA HAA HAA"
Major Alan Dutch Schaefer and the Jungle Hunter, PREDATOR (1987)
"Final report of the commercial starship Nostromo, third officer reporting. The other members of the crew - Kane, Lambert, Parker, Brett, Ash, and Captain Dallas - are dead. Cargo and ship destroyed. I should reach the frontier in about six weeks. With a little luck, the network will pick me up. This is Ripley, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off," Warrant Officer Ellen Ripley, ALIEN (1979)
“If you would call Japan’s Three Non-Nuclear Principles ‘egotism,’ then so be it. However, is not the Soviets’ and the Americans’ desire to use nuclear weapons also egotism?”
- Prime Minister Seiki Mitamura, The Return of Godzilla (1984)
"He claimed to have found a dinosaur living under the sea near the Bonin Islands. He claimed to control it. He even called it Titanosaurus. That cost him his career as a scientist."
— Professor Ota explains how Shinzo Mafune's discovery of Titanosaurus cost him his scientific career, Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975)
We Exif have been wandering through space as vagrants far longer than Earthlings have, and we've witnessed many civilizations destroyed. Many have been regretfully destroyed by creatures similar to Godzilla. He is the punishing iron hammer for the arrogant. For the species who pronounce themselves as lords of creation, a divine avenger will pay them a visit.
-Metphies (Planet of the Monsters)
"Hey! What do you know about the old days? If you keep thinking like that, you'll become prey for Godzilla." - Gisaku
"Boy that's a real laugh. Godzilla needs to be studied. He's a gold mine of knowledge. But you couldn't care less! You just want to kill him before we can fully analyze him."
(Yuji Shinoda)
Godzilla 2000
"And when, still calling to each other, one of them fell at last into the molten lava stream, the other still refused to save itself. Last of its kind, blasters of the air and Earth, strongest, swiftest creatures that ever breathed, now they sank against the Earth like weary children. Each had refused to live without the other, and so they were dying together. I wondered whether I, a twentieth-century man, could ever hope to die as well."
— Shigeru Kawamura, rodan (1956)
"I don't think you have been keeping up with current events but we just got our asses kicked pal!", Private Bill Hudson, ALIENS (1986)
Thoughts_Dreams
I don't think you understand what people mean by woke.
Ripley being female isn't woke, because who she is isn't defined by the fact she is a woman. At her core, Ripley is a gender neutral character, written to be played by either a man or a woman.
Then comes the second movie, men and women both serving the military is good feminism because both genders are equals. This again isn't wokeism.
What is woke is stating or depicting all men are all evil perverted idiots and women are superior, this is woke.
Ripley never had flaunt that she was a woman, so Ripley was never woke. Dietrich, Vasquez, or Ferro, neither of these Colonial Marine women had to remind the audience that they are female they just are; so they weren't woke.
Lets take the recent example of wokeness from MARVEL, INO-She-Hulk, "I get angry and filled with rage, not because I had suffered a tragic back story or lost a love one or anything, NOPE because men exist and they are annoying!" THIS IS WOKE.
Well I know human villians are important part of the franchise but the BIG V is supposed to be the xenomorphs because they are the larger threat since humanity doesn't know well enough to leave these guys alone
Woke nonsense? Political messages have always been a part of the franchise, no matter if you like it or not. Weyland Yutani has been used as a symbol for corporations and their power, feminism as Ripley in a lead female role, for example. It's a bit too late to complain about that.
I rather have it woke if that means some progressive ideas here and there than some - corporations are fine, long live our military kind of thing. Corporate propaganda is everywhere, so at least keep it out of the alien-movies.
Xenotaris: You said something about replacing the monsters with human antagonists. You can have both, in the form of A) Xeno-ish monsters and B) Human antagonists, corporate types, since they have been an important part in the franchise since day one.
My fear exactly, Marvel is taking credit for all the things Dark Horse Comic had done years prior.
Thoughts_Dreams
Egg morphing sounds very bug-like thing to do too, just less ants, bees, and termites and more like a carpenter wasp. Congratulations, you traded one bug-like feature for another.
can you improve on your english a little because I did not understand what you just said? How are Burke and Weyland-Yutani xenomorphs?
Welcome back to the boards ninXeno426! Gripe away my friend, we're all getting old around here hahaha
I concur I have my reservations of excitement for this new Alien film but not for the director or the cast being of a younger generation - but for the simple fact that it's 2023 and every movie coming out lately has been a regurgitation of the same woke tropes stuffed into ever crevasse of a movie's plot. The agenda pushing has become nauseating and I'm concerned Alien will fall prey to its influence like so many other great franchises.
I was actually pretty skeptical on Prey when it was early in production - I had many doubts and ended up being pleasantly surprised and satisfied by the film when it came out. I'm praying Romulus surprises me in the same way. With Ridley Scott attached to produce I'm sure he'll kibosh any nonsense that detracts too heavily from the flick itself given that he holds the Alien franchise pretty close to his heart (and ego).
Hopefully with a more in depth plot synopsis in the coming months we can get a better idea of what the film will be like. But in the meantime, by all means keep griping hahaha.
I hope it's not a slasher flick like those you mentioned, although I definitely think Fede Alvarez is trying to bring the franchise closer to its roots - a small group of people trapped on a ship or world with a single Xenomorph picking them off one by one. It's the blueprint for an Alien movie the only difference is having it be a younger generation rather than adults. It is Disney after all... my biggest fear is that they pepper in some woke nonsense that detracts from the film's plot and momentum like so many films do nowadays.
Maybe introducing the queen, it makes them too close to bees, ants, and so on. I prefer egg-morphing since it's less known. Not too sure about the ridged dome either, I prefer to keep it simple.
I hope that it will be better than what we have been given starting with AR, but with Disney I'm not sure. Hopefully they will have it rated R, with characters to give a damn about and interesting monsters. Keep the monsters in the shadow, it works better that way. Not a comic guy, but I kind of understand that with the situation right now. Marvel being owned by Disney, right? Disney doing an average job with the Star Wars movies, I'm not so sure about the future of the franchise, although Scott and Fox didn't do too well.
