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Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.They were in the water bottle and didn't grow.
The baby ticks were put in the water bottle to infect a host rather than to grow. The real danger is in enough of these babies get into a water supply source on earth (New Siam or Neverland most likely) to infect other species. The ticks feed on blood but it doesn't have to be human and maybe doesn't have to be from a living organism. Then those babies grow and probably make more babies and infect more hosts and so on and so on. That's when you get a disaster level event.
^ that's hilarious 😆
Agree that the captain should not have been able to outrun the xenomorph. The xenomorph doesn't have eyes so the T. Ocellus couldn't get into his head.
I think that while ALIEN was a Masterpiece it maybe could have become one of those CULT Movies...like The Thing and Blade Runner etc....rnAnd so i would AGREE that ALIENS was the Movie that made the Franchise more Familiar, by that if you Showed EVERYONE on the Planet and Asked or Talked about the Franchise....rnI think MORE would be Familiar with ALIENS over ALIEN. To the General Population then YES that does Stand Out more. The Alien Franchise which Includes the Video Games. Comics, Novels and Cross-Overs (AVP) do seem to be more Synonymous and Connected to Camerons Aliens... rather than Ridley Scotts Original.rnFor me and maybe for Many i was Younger when i saw ALIENS... and the Action and Bravado was more my Cuppa Tea but i also LOVED the First Movie and was Disapointed with the 3rd..... But as i Grew Older then Alien 3 had Grown on me, and Aliens started to NOT be as Great... but still Good.....rnOverall then ALIEN was my Favorite and i think as RS had said for me i became Unsensitised to the Franchise as FAR as the Xenomorph because i had seen it OVER and OVER in Various Mediums.... what KEPT the First ALIEN Movie as Enigmatic for me was the MYSTERY....rnThat First Time we see the Derelict, the Pilot Chamber and Pilot, the Egg Cargo Hold.... this to me is ONE of the GREATEST Set of Scenes in Sci-Fi History.rnThe Xenomorph was something we had NEVER really seen it was Unique, it was Iconic...it was a ENIGMA.... but then when you have something that is SHOWN in Mass and Too Many Times then it LOOSES that Sparkle/Enigma it once had.rnThis is NOT to say that Aliens had Killed it Off..... i think the Downfall Started with Alien Resurrection and then AVPR basically made a Mockery of Sorts of it.rnI cant Blame JC for the Queen.... he had Free Reign to Explore the Idea as the Egg Morph Scene was NOT a Part of the Original (DC Cut aside). But when you look at Eggs.... then you think well they have to be LAID by something.rnAnd if that Something can LAY MANY EGGS... then your Conclusion would be that maybe they have to be like a Ant, Bee or Termite and so you can Understand as to HOW the Hive/Queen came to be.rnThe Existence of the Queen did OPEN the Debate about the Origins of the Xenomorph as FAR as to give some Credit to the Idea that the Xenomorph was NOT a Creation but a Ancient Organism.....rnIt seems that THIS would have been something that JC would have Touched On had he MADE the Sequel to ALIENS... This would make the Xenomorph become more Closer to the Original Starbeast.rnRidley Scott had however thought the Xenomorph as a Engineered Killing Machine that the Space Jockey had Created....But this does-not make the Queen as something that does-not FIT with a Engineered Weapon... the Queen actually Offers some Benefit as a Weapon.... but also Offers some Flaws.rnBut even if ALIENS had Never Existed and the Egg Morph was shown in ALIEN then IF the Notion was the Xenomorph was a Creation by the Space Jockey then it would STILL have Flaws as well as Pros to being a Bio-Weapon.rnI think EVERYONE has a Different Take well can have a Varied Take on the Franchise and likes and Dislikes and Everyone is Entitled to that. There may even be some who like AVRP ;) (I actually think the Pred-Alien and Procreation was Interesting but a BIT RAPID).
That's why I wish they would connect the movie and answer the questions everyone has.
Back on point I wonder how far away from Yvaga III Origae 6 is?
They never will. The LV 426 derelict, the space jockey, the cargo of eggs, whether they were on board or beneath ship should never have an answer. Like I said no one will ever be satisfied. Is that a human? Is that David? Is that Daniels? Some random person? None of this will be satisfactory. Even worse its been there for less than 20 years before Alien? So much for it being ancient. Just leave it alone.
I hope they finally explain it all.
Just finished Ep.5. Wow what a ride and nostalgia overflow. I especially love the full Nostromo replica and throwback. This is 1979 ALIEN on steroids + Alien Isolation vibe, especially the captain running and hiding scene. Just wtf how could the captain outrun the alien lol.
The bug and eye ball escaping scene is pretty intense. Very creepy to see them finding ways to escape.
Not sure if it is my most favorite so far (I really like Ep3), but definitely in my Top 2.
^ that's hilarious 😆
That does awesome and something I'd actually like to see but please not yet another "get away from her you (son-) of a bitch!"
Have Morrow be infected by Mr. Eyeball but still be moderately in control of his own body due to his cybernetics and in immense pain. Then a dramatic fight where he sacrifices and also redeems himself to save someone defenseless, and when the xeno is dead and Morrow is sliced and burnt by acid he gets flashbacks of his daughter before succumbing to his injuries. RIP real and actually interesting protagonist of Alien Earth.
I really enjoyed the episode. When the T. Ocellus got a hold of one of the crewmembers, I was just thinking "Oh please don't speak", and thankfully it didn't; instead, it made a demonic guttural sound. The fight with the Xenomorph was also pretty nice. But the part where Xenomorph runs away after Ocellus jumps at him killed me.
The way Xeno stands up and runs away.
I guess you can consider me a new member. This book is what got me interested in the Alien movie. The cover says, "In space no one can hear you scream." I always liked science fiction.
It says the video is private so I can't view it. I remember seeing one Aliens movie awhile ago where they started with Newt's family. They showed her parents and brother. They also showed the lab in their compound. Have never seen it since and I watch the Aliens movie the most.
I was totally fine with the Engineer being there, the Engineers are the best part of the prequels. Hopefully they will be used in later movies, let's see.
I hope so too. Would love them to answer some of the questions I have starting with the first movie, Alien.
That thing was the worst.
Well this is the OP own Opinion.rnI think ALIENS is FAR from the Worst Movie in the Franchise, it is POPCORN but it shows you have to do Popcorn Action Well.... I had a Good Amount of Good Characters, Story, Execution, Pacing was Good the Effects were Good. Its Hard to Fault about from it is merely Popcorn Action and maybe JC had Evolved the Xenomorph to what RS would NOT have.rn"The end was supposed to be clear, Ripley was killed by Alien"rnThis was NOT Part of the Drafts, the Drafts from 1st we had a Single Survivor a Male called ROBY..... this was Changed to Female called RIPLEY for the other Drafts and the ENDING has always been they Survive and the ALIEN gets Blown out of the Shuttle/Airlock.rnRidley Scott had Proposed that the ALIEN should KILL the Survivor Ripley and then Imitate her Voice.... but to be Fair that would have been a Bit Silly and MOST Movies have Survivors. And so this Idea was thrown out.rn"But the worst of all is Cameron's Ripley-Rambo"rnRipley seemed a Tough Character a Female who takes NO BS! Her Experiences/Trauma did make her into that Rambo Ripley, but the Story Arc seemed OK... i think YEAH was a BIT of a Rambo in HOW she Managed to get to Newt and See Off the Xenomorphs on her OWN that the Marines had Struggled and Most Died trying to do (Face the Xenomorph Threat). So yeah i think that Scene was a bit OT.rn"An indestructible monster has changed into a weird beetle, which can be shot with a shotgun"rnIts Hard to say, as the Xenomorph has Acid Blood and this is WHY the Nostromo Crew would DARE NOT to Wound it.... and some Shotguns can PUT A BIG HOLE in any kind of Organism at Close Range! The Xenomorph did seem more Fodder in ALIENS but we are Dealing with more Open Field of Battle than the Confines of the Nostromo, and the Marines are WELL TRAINED and Armed with Weapons with Explosive Rounds.rnThe Xenomorph in ALIEN was Tough but we NEVER saw it Attacked Really, so its HARD TO SAY.... but i Doubt it was NO TERMINATOR..... it did seem to NOT be Wounded by Fire though... same we saw in Alien Covenant too.rn"a planetoid of 1200 km is a great planet"rnThis came from ALIEN as well as a 2 Hour Rotation, which makes LV-426 Tiny and also with that Rotation to Size Ratio.... well the Gravity would be Immense... maybe they should have said it was 12'000 KM with a 8 Hour Rotation that would make more Sense. But this Nonsense came from ALIEN inc the Earlier Drafts.rn"That's why no film from this "Alien Universe", either AvP or A: Covenant, is a problem for me. After that awful nonsense, "Aliens" rnI would go and Watch say ALIENS and then AVPR back to back and then see how you Feel ;)
Aliens is my favorite movie. After rewatching Alien again the other night, I find it boring compared to Aliens. Tonight I am going to watch Aliens again to try and see why some of you don't like it. Loved the crew.
My take on the crews indifference to the facehuggers is that i think they're pretty used to death. 65 years. I'm certain there's been casualties. I'm guessing at intervals there have been crew replacements
There were casualties. The old man who got eyed in the last episode said a lot of good men died trying to imprison those creepy space things.
I also enjoyed episode 5 as it was the most "alien" so far. I think T ocellus is highly aggressive and even tried unsuccessfully to take over the xeno. I also wonder if it has hypnotic or telekinetic powers as I think it may have messed with the lady scientist's mind while she was feeding the "space ticks" and made her forget to put the seal back on the containment jar. We only saw two of those ticks in the earlier episodes but it sure looked like there were a lot more on the loose after the engineering apprentice died. I also don't recall seeing what caused the hole in the floor in the lab. That seems to have been created before the advent of the xeno that we see creating havoc on the ship. So was there another xeno that we haven't seen yet or did I miss something?I too thought the Ocellus was trying to warn her. I think it was smart enough to perceive that the crew were vital for its safe transport to wherever it was going and then dying or letting other hostile organisms loose would pose a problem. I’m fully convinced it was trying to warn her but also convinced the Ocellus only cares about itself and its own self interests. It’s calculated so Xeno poses bigger threat than Humans. Had it won the battle with the Xeno, I wonder how it would have acted.But you bring up a very good point – how did the acid hole get there. You’re right, no Aliens had got injured or loose or cocooned there as far as we know… Plot “hole”… 😂
Lots of plot holes, starting with the first movie. They all need to be addressed.
Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.
They were in the water bottle and didn't grow.
The god Prometheus created man and stole fire from the god Zeus. He gave fire to man to make man equal to a god. Zeus severly punished PrometheusrnrnRidley Scott says (paraphrased) ‘The Company's ship, Prometheus, travels light years into deep space as a challange to the gods’.rnrnIn the movie, do you think the fire stolen by Prometheus will be the Aliens knowledge of teraforming or is that too literal? rnrnWas the derelict ship on it's way to punish earth for the events of the Prometheus voyage, and was the company looking for it? .........all priorities recinded!
I wish they would finish the Prometheus storyline already. Didn't like the doctor and her boyfriend. Hope they don't bring her back. She was the reason so many people died. Don't understand David's obsession with her. Want to know what happened to her offspring. There was no one left on the planet to eat so how did it survive?
I totally agree they should leave the LouisVuitton426 derelict a secret. Sometimes a myth is better than a truth.
My take on the crews indifference to the facehuggers is that i think they're pretty used to death. 65 years. I'm certain there's been casualties. I'm guessing at intervals there have been crew replacements
I'm simultaneously hopeful and concerned that the Romulus sequel will catch up with David. Loads of potential. Plenty can go wrong. I personally feel the LV 426 derelict should remain a mystery though
The xenomorph patiently stood right in front of the captain yet does not kill her (!) trips her with its tail (?) allows her to get back up on her feet (!!) and she successfully runs away in the worst Disney chase scene since Leia and the bandits in the terrible Obi-Wan series. The xenomorph charges after her way faster than any human could possibly run yet she outruns it. I get that some characters have plot armor but this is ridiculous. First Hermit and now this captain avoid getting killed in encounters with the xeno despite being served on a silver plate. Who writes this?? Yes she does get killed at the end so I guess the xenomorph realized it's a killing machine after all.
Also in the beginning of the episode no one seems to react a lot to the fact that two of their crew members were facehugged and one of them (previous captain) having his whole throat melted by acid. That young kid even made jokes in this inappropriate situation. It's so off-putting and unrealistic despite that I really try my best to suspend my disbelief at all times but this is Idiocracy-level idiotic.
Morrow singlehandedly carried this episode and just barely saved it from being almost unwatchable.
Nitpicks (and there are many) include the "perfect organism" xenomorph (well not anymore thanks to Disney) struggling in a fight against a possessed human, the editing with occasional scene fade outs killing any ounce of suspense, Ikea-quality glass cylinders that are supposed to contain highly dangerous organisms, hentai tentacle monster tapping the glass to warn the scientist (lol), a junior/trainee engineer so shockingly stupid I'm surprised he even manages basic daily routines, and so many throwbacks to Alien that even Fede Alvarez' love letter Romulus fade in comparison.
The good parts were the scenes with Morrow, some impressive CGI (especially the facehuggers and the xenomorph) the shootout scene against the traitor and the appearance of the infected senior engineer, looking like he came straight from The Thing.
This series is like a high-budget YouTube fan film. Severely flawed yet occasionally entertaining.
Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.
The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.
I love this franchise so:rnrnrnAlien: love this one to death. I would say it is in my top 10/20 of all timernrnrnAliens: Loved it though since I liked the quieter original this has to go 2nd.rnrnrnPrometheus: People love to hate on it but I love this film. the music is great, the plot is good and the visuals are awesome. I get the complaints around this one, but I don't care the movie would've played out the same. I like them building on the backstory.rnrnrnCovenant: This one is weird. I like it but I think less than Prometheus which bummed me out a bit. At the same time it sort of let me know that it had become a trilogy about David. I know people don't care but the possible sequel to this movie is one of my most anticipated films. The way it ended I hope it set up some full planet horror hunger games deal and end David in style. I've thought about this too much lolrnrnrnAlien 3: I hate this one. The ending sequence is I think iconic and it has a lot of other stuff that is visually iconic, but I just don't like it. It is a tie between Resurrection. I like this one's story a bit more.rnrnrnAlien Resurrection: I saw this one as a kid and I think it was my first theater Alien film or at least the one I recall going to. I like the director a lot and the style of this movie though the story is too cheesy for me to care. I still rewatch it.rnrnrnhappy wheels
I read the book before I saw the movie. The eggs in this movie are small and they had a barrier over them which I didn't see in any other movie. The traveler was gigantic, way bigger than the engineers.
I honestly thought at first the ocellus was trying to warn her. Then I realized it was distracting her. It's frightfully intelligent. I think the acid could have been from the failed removal of the facehugger off the captain.
After thinking more about it I think the acid burn on the floor is from the failed facehugger removal on the captain. They just decided to tell us about it rather than show us as Alien did with Kane. T. Ocellus was in my humble opinion first trying to distract and then trying to warn the lady science officer about letting the space ticks loose. I think the eyeball was trying to get the scientist to leave its lid loose but the signals got crossed. But the eyeball must have succeeded in part because it was able to escape. I think the eyeball is intelligent enough to see the danger of those space ticks running loose. They may end up being a future "black plague" type event because their embryos can be injected into water.
One of the references is Alien: The Role Playing Game. I'm guessing there. By my count I think you can see roughly five pyramids on LV 233. So there has to be at least three juggernauts left behind. Not even the Fire and Stone series took those into account.At least three Juggernauts for sure. More than enough for David to play with and also – a setup for a potential escape for the Human characters. Imagine, the Spage Jockey in Alien (1979) was actually a HUMAN who escaped David's carnival of horrors on LV-223, but didn't know they had been incubated with an Alien beforehand. Commandeers a Juggernaut, somehow manages to fit inside the biotech pressure shit attached to the chair, tries to escape not knowing that ship carries a cargo full of eggs. It would be a stretch for sure since the Jockey is HUGE and a Human would be tiny inside that suit. Fans would probably quit the franchise if it turned out to be a Human though 😂🤣 So nvm actually.A better idea is – Engineers come back to discover what David did on Planet 4 and track him down to LV-223 and a battle ensues by a faction of Engineers and David's army of various alien creations. Then, the last Engineer – maybe a BIGGER, God entity one, above the Engineers we saw in Prometheus and Covenant, is the Space Jockey and David gets the last laugh by unknowingly impregnating him before he leaves the moon.IMAGINE the connections you could make – imagine that Derelict was also on a mission to seed Earth with Aliens in RETALIATION for what David did to their sacred settlement on Planet 4! I'd get behind that. And then it showcases Humanity's Ascension into the universal hierarchy, of which Engineers and Mankind are vying for intergalactic dominance! This is the stuff I'd love to see played out on a grand scale.
I would like to see David get his after what he did to human beings and the engineer's home world.
One of the references is Alien: The Role Playing Game. I'm guessing there. By my count I think you can see roughly five pyramids on LV 233. So there has to be at least three juggernauts left behind. Not even the Fire and Stone series took those into account.At least three Juggernauts for sure. More than enough for David to play with and also – a setup for a potential escape for the Human characters. Imagine, the Spage Jockey in Alien (1979) was actually a HUMAN who escaped David's carnival of horrors on LV-223, but didn't know they had been incubated with an Alien beforehand. Commandeers a Juggernaut, somehow manages to fit inside the biotech pressure shit attached to the chair, tries to escape not knowing that ship carries a cargo full of eggs. It would be a stretch for sure since the Jockey is HUGE and a Human would be tiny inside that suit. Fans would probably quit the franchise if it turned out to be a Human though 😂🤣 So nvm actually.A better idea is – Engineers come back to discover what David did on Planet 4 and track him down to LV-223 and a battle ensues by a faction of Engineers and David's army of various alien creations. Then, the last Engineer – maybe a BIGGER, God entity one, above the Engineers we saw in Prometheus and Covenant, is the Space Jockey and David gets the last laugh by unknowingly impregnating him before he leaves the moon.IMAGINE the connections you could make – imagine that Derelict was also on a mission to seed Earth with Aliens in RETALIATION for what David did to their sacred settlement on Planet 4! I'd get behind that. And then it showcases Humanity's Ascension into the universal hierarchy, of which Engineers and Mankind are vying for intergalactic dominance! This is the stuff I'd love to see played out on a grand scale.
Like your ideas. They connect things.
Was hoping the monsters got that female captain first. Her voice was like nails on a blackboard.
I wonder if they are aiming for a more light-hearted approach for this show, as compared to those Alien films. The tone and tempo somewhat gives me Alien Resurrection vibe.Yeah, I get Resurrection vibes as well. Not sure it’s intentional, given the pre-release interviews and sentiments but who knows.
I'm going to watch all the movies again starting with Alien. With your input, I can probably get a better picture of what's going on here.
I saw the origae 6 billboard now. Didnt know this as all. Cool to see another easter egg from Romulus. 😃
I also enjoyed episode 5 as it was the most "alien" so far. I think T ocellus is highly aggressive and even tried unsuccessfully to take over the xeno. I also wonder if it has hypnotic or telekinetic powers as I think it may have messed with the lady scientist's mind while she was feeding the "space ticks" and made her forget to put the seal back on the containment jar. We only saw two of those ticks in the earlier episodes but it sure looked like there were a lot more on the loose after the engineering apprentice died. I also don't recall seeing what caused the hole in the floor in the lab. That seems to have been created before the advent of the xeno that we see creating havoc on the ship. So was there another xeno that we haven't seen yet or did I miss something?
I too thought the Ocellus was trying to warn her. I think it was smart enough to perceive that the crew were vital for its safe transport to wherever it was going and then dying or letting other hostile organisms loose would pose a problem. I’m fully convinced it was trying to warn her but also convinced the Ocellus only cares about itself and its own self interests. It’s calculated so Xeno poses bigger threat than Humans. Had it won the battle with the Xeno, I wonder how it would have acted.
But you bring up a very good point – how did the acid hole get there. You’re right, no Aliens had got injured or loose or cocooned there as far as we know… Plot “hole”… 😂
I originally thought Wendy was the one rejecting her body, but it looks like Nibs is the one it's happening to. That, or she is somehow in communication (or being controlled) with the eye monster, like Wendy is for the Xenomorph. I wonder if each of the kids will connect/communicate with each of the monsters, there's one for each of them I think.rnAlso, this made me laugh so hard lol.Nibs is definitely not adapting well to being a hybrid. If you look back at episode 2 at the 26:30 mark the eyeball monster actually touches Nib's face with its tentacles. On first watch I thought Nibs caught with her hands and avoided further contact but she didn't. I can't claim credit for spotting this - someone on YouTube caught it first. But I wonder if the eyeball was able to implant something much like Morrow did to Slightly. At the very least Nibs was deeply shaken by the whole experience. I also wonder how Prodigy knows that adults don't adjust to the transition to being a hybrid. The company might have had a few unsuccessful prior experiments to come to this conclusion.
Plus she's acting aggressive now. She wasn't that way before that thing touched her. If she's a robot, how can that thing do anything to her?
I'm all for it. I just hope it doesn't connect to the LV 426 Derelict like he's suggested in the past. Leave that a mystery. I don't think answer to that Will ever satisfy. I'm curious about Origae 6 being acknowledged in Romulus. I had to track down the image (thank you Reddit), look far right. Was Origae 6 colonized after all? Did David actually go there?Wait, how did we miss the Origae-6 reference in Alien: Romulus?! I missed that Easter egg – that is a pretty big deal. Or is it simply the company recruiting for that mission again after the Covenant went off course? Enough time would have passed surely... That distinct deserves its own topic, imo. Thank you for sharing that!
I'm going to watch all the movies again.
Yes, follow up on Covenant so we could finally (hopefully) get some well deserved closure. Leaving Daniels and Tennessee in the freezer for evil David to plan his experimental cooking is just foul lol. Have David cornered by a pissed off mob of surviving colonists armed with colonial farming tools, and let them go full medieval on his milky android ass. Shred him to bits and blow him out the airlock through his favorite flute to the tune of Einzug der Götter in Walhall by Das Rheingold Prodigy Remix.*Credits roll*That's quality writing right there. Anyway I can't stand David but that's a testament to how well Michael Fassbender portrays the vile mastermind. It would also be a perfect opportunity to flesh out his motives beyond passionately creating, philosophing and destroying. Wickedness aside he's an interesting multifaceted character not entirely unlike Tony Soprano or Patrick Bateman and surely he must've evolved a lot during the journey towards Origae-6, his own giant canvas for sure.Realistically though I don't think a sequel will happen. Will Michael, Katherine Waterston and Danny McBride be interested at this point, 8 years after the release of Covenant? Maybe, hopefully. Who knows but fingers crossed that it'll happen and more importantly that it will at least be above average.
I would like to see a sequel. I don't like dangling threads. Would prefer consistency and all questions about the movies answered once and for all. Hoping they do it soon.
I honestly thought at first the ocellus was trying to warn her. Then I realized it was distracting her. It's frightfully intelligent. I think the acid could have been from the failed removal of the facehugger off the captain.
I also thought it was trying to warn her. Then I watched it again and saw how it distracted her.
My favorite episode so far too. My only nitpick was already addressed by an interview with Noah Hawley and that was how poorly Boy Kavalier handled the sabotage.
My favorite episode also. It was like watching an Alien movie. No teenagers and boring storylines. I hope it continues that way.
What is the Origae 6 reference in Romulus? I missed the easter egg 😯
