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this is the best thread ever

hAhA gOtEm

anyways yeah that was a joke

but still, this looks pretty cool i like it

well this relavation contridicts my own godzilla evolution since in both Gojiverse and Rise of the Kaiju Godzilla evolved from the bipedal dinosaurian Gojirasaurus.

Scaly Quadruped is the most powerful name I've ever witnessed

But yeah, it actually looks pretty sweet! XENO INCLUDE THIS IN THE GOJIVERSE- ok im joking

Zhang Ziyi is chinese, i would like to see Yuminko Shaku to appear in a MonsterVerse movie

Wait, Doug is PROTOGODZILLA?

What the actual ****?!

 Also couldn't they have come up with a more creative name???

wow crazy good art! 

Um, Zhang Ziyi returned?

bring in a japanese actor or actress

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@G. H. (Gman) Yeah, now that you've pointed that out it does make a lot more sense. To loosely use an old meme "Maybe it's not the movie the world deserved, but the one it needed?".

Thinking about it, this could also explain why certain parts of the movie felt like a puzzle with certain parts missing. Maybe the movie was heavily re-edited to better fit this more casual mindless fun theme instead of the more thought-out plot of the previous movies. Maybe that's even why the trailer took so long to come out? I'm going down a whole new rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, but I'll let you decide.

It also does explain a lot why I and some others didn't like this movie as many others seem to do. For me personally, I really enjoy those more brainy and meaningful elements in movies, especially with Godzilla/Kaiju movies. It's the same reason why I stopped with the Fast and Furious franchise, just stuff happens for reasons unknown, physics just doesn't matter until they do? Godzilla movies especially have always had that more meaningful perspective on it, heck without it the big G wouldn't even exist. Then again, Godzilla has always changed depending on the times, going from an effect of war to a superhero to a force of nature to the embodiment of dying soldiers. It's weirdly always been part of the character.

As you mentioned, I'm really interested to see how in 5 years or so people will look back on this movie and if it will hold up as well as it does now. If anything I hope people will at least start to notice some of the flaws the movie has on rewatch. I hope if the Monsterverse continues, they do lean back to the more plot-driven stories of the previous movies, but only time will tell I guess.

And yeah, I would love this.

Hmm, very interesting. Always down for Biollante in literally anything so that's a great start. I do think Ren Serizawa could return for this as well seeing as I feel like there is still a lot more that could be done with the character. I've heard some theories/ideas floating around about Ghidorah's soul taking over his body after MG was defeated which could be very interesting.

Also, love the inclusion of Sam Brody! I really missed any appearance/mention of the Brody family in the previous movies and something like this would work so well especially with Madison in the mix (Kind of makes me annoyed they didn't do that for GvK)

Thanks!

KaijuBuildz,
I think part of it is, "right place, right time." I'd argue under normal circumstances, GvK wouldn't have done nearly as well or have been reviewed nearly as positively. But the fact is it's the first major release since Wonder Woman 1984 disappointed in December and I believe there's reason for its success.

As much as I don't like it, it's not a message movie. It's not self-important. And it doesn't remind anyone of current events. People are tired. They don't want a self-important, brainy, sci-fi espionage flick like Tenet from last summer. (Which is a great movie--Don't get me wrong.) They don't even want to be reminded they need "hope" from Wonder Woman 1984--That implies there's something wrong. Godzilla vs. Kong offered unadulterated, mindless, cheap escapism that took them as far away from the covid-era existence as possible. It was a complete exit from reality that offered audiences something to cheer for and it was enough to reinvigorate life in theaters.

This is probably the only instance I, or others, will critique a movie based on the point of time it's released. However, the extremity of the last year seems to necessitate and even justify it.

I agree with you and YeOldFossil, completely. The movie is a two hour lapse in logic, character work and nuance. I'm very curious as to how this movie will age. Will it be remembered for how it resuscitated cinemas? Or will it retroactively be seen as a mess we all gave a free pass due to the times? Or both? Personally, I think too many are still on their honeymoon phase with the movie to know for sure.

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Thank you!! I'm so happy someone else pointed it out. Though I do believe a lot of additional scenes for Ren's character specifically were cut, this movie leaves A LOT to be desired when it came to the human story.

Another example for me was the villain's daughter character who entered the movie 1/3 of the way in, did literally nothing to the point of me forgetting she was there until she betrayed after which she was killed pretty much immediately. Btw, am I the only one who wondered how their plan to collect the energy source for MechGodzilla didn't account for the 100-meter tall ape?

Also maybe it's because I'm biased to King of the Monsters but how can critics go from "To much humans, not enough Godzilla" with Godzilla 2014 to "To much monsters, not enough human" with KotM and then to "Just brainless fun, who cares about the human story anyway"? I know that this is very much simplifying it, but I genuinely find it weird how these general opinions can change and interdict so much, especially since (in my opinion) the Characters in KotM were better than GvK. Then again, maybe I'm just not seeing something here that others are, I really don't know anymore?

The kanto region in pokemon was based off the real-life kanto region which is where Tokyo resides

Great, am I right?

True.  But it would be awesome to see nevertheless....

Paramount won't let Clover go. Especially when they're developing their own sequel.

This where I usually remind people that most early cuts for almost every film is 5 hours or more and has to be whittled down.

But YeOldFossil makes excellent criticisms otherwise. All very valid points.

"Japan-Kanto region"

Do I see a Pokemon reference????

Naw, for me Millie wins.

What about Clover?

And quite Frankly, he is shit at storytelling. 5 hours total filmed and he couldn’t even try to include more story. Why was Ren even there? Why does Josh exist? Why not include the scenes where the guy finds his brother’s broken ship? Could have been a good moment that brought team Kong together where Jia and the women help home cope. Where are they getting skull crawlers? Also, show don’t tell. Show me Kong saving Jia, show me Godzilla looking physically tired and injured to 50% like Adam said in his interview. Bleeding wounds from the axe and whatnot. He really didn’t deliver anything impressive but the CGI was good and the fight ok. Just didn’t deliver much of anything else and cut way too much.

I mean, yeah, it's a movie about two giant monsters, big monke and big lizard, having basically a death battle. AND it was a battle that happened way back in the 60s, and we wanted a rematch. People love that stuff.

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This is so funny to watch. 

Ooohhhh. Oops. Yes this is the late Cretaceous period. I kind of forgot about that. 

Yes they do occasionally need help. But the thing about Kong is that he never needed help before. He always managed to survive alone and even took title as king and alpha of Skull island. But fair, maybe a little assistance every now and then, but it was literally every fight scene Kong needed to be saved. Even against the warbats which he should have been able to handle alone without the help. Kong looked like he couldn’t win a single fight without someone saving him. It’s Kong Kong, put some respect on his name. They couldn’t just make him Look like he was a powerhouse for one moment in the movie or actually do any real serious damage to Godzilla. Movie is called GvK and Kong didn’t come close to even looking like he was actually going to win even with the axe. It’s pretty clear Adam is more of a Godzilla fan so just give him a Godzilla movie and Give Kong to someone that actually wants to make Kong look like a total badass king that thrived against the odds despite being alone for his whole life surrounded by monsters that want to kill you. Get the guy who directed Skull island or find someone else.

I've been playing Alien: Isolation for a while. It's one of the best games I have ever played. And the best part is I'm all alone at my property in Athens and it makes it even scarier. 

I don't know why but I personally like Alien 3. I like to see David Fincher's touch in canon. 

I bought the game ever since it first came out. As an alien and horror fan, I really like it.
Devs nailed 1979 alien aesthetic. Other than some critics, the game was very well received by gamers and alien fans.
The main criticism was aimed at the game's difficulty. The game is really difficult. And tbh, I did rage many times during my playthroughs. I remember one time while I was attempting to beat one level that I was stuck on for days, and when I thought that I will finally beat it, the Xeno jumped from the vent and got me and I had to restart the whole level. I was so angry that my face was red, steam was coming out of my ears and I almost broke my controller.

Other than that, If you're a fan of stealth-based horror games, give the game a try.

I felt bad for Kong at the end of GvK like he needs a family.  He was really excited to find them braving hollow Earth wich he clearly was not a fan of, then just finds bones and his only friends are basically insects. Godzilla wont even hang out with him. Yeah they need to make Son of Kong, just hope its nothing like the original Son of Kong. That was a extremely depressing film and after Kong's shitty childhood he deserves a happily ever after. Would be really nice if the Kongs became allies with Rhedosaurus!

As for Godzilla... they did give him a proper send off. I dont want them to fuck that up. However clearly shin and singulair point are so far off that Toho is just trying to find a team that can do the job and no one can replace Tsuburaya or Kawakita so it's a constant reboot and they keep fucking it up. Legendary needs to get the contract back unless Toho is willing to go back to a traditional Godzilla using suitmation and show some respect for the Dragons damn it.

I'm so in for a Godzilla monsterverse game. A Mortal Kombat style game would be so cool but I imagine something like where the characters are colossal and buildings and stuff surrounding them looks tiny and they destroy the city while fighting. While playing you will feel the destruction they cause if you know what I mean. I love Mortal Kombat so much that I've been abroad last month to rent a property in France for my company and we ended up playing Mortal Kombat all week with my brother on his couch who lives there for over 5 years. I could barely finish my business there.. 

Behemoth is a big mean dude. I'd wet myself right away if I've seen it in reality. 

I have the game on my Epic Games account already. Is it worth trying? I heard some bad comments about it from my friends and now I have some doubts.

cool, although the appearance of Kong surprised me since primates aren't supposed to evolve yet... I assuming this is the late cretaceous period?

CHAPTER 20: THE ONE WHO IS MANY

The xilien controllers watched from their mothership as their ships and warriors were quickly slain by the Earth’s kaiju. Hedorah, Gigan, and Space Godzilla were not enough to tip the balance, the controllers now look upon King Ghidorah. The massive golden three headed dragon slumbers within his ceremonially decorated containment cell. Ichi the primary head slowly opens his red eyes, he peels back his thin lips baring his sharp fangs. Ni twists his neck as he slowly arises with Ichi, San remains asleep with his tongue partially sticking out. Ichi snaps at San to wake up, the clumsy left head quickly perks right up. Collectively King Ghidorah stretches their wings but their elbows collide into the containment chamber’s walls. Ichi growls in anger, all three heads of King Ghidorah stare into the small window containing their subjects. The unjoined xilien stare in awe of King Ghidorah’s majesty while the joined just see him as an asset to be used. “Release Monster Zero!” the controller orders. The apex of Ghidorah’s chamber slowly opens, the air inside the chamber spews out of the now open roof followed by silence as without air sound cannot travel. From the outside, six red eyes peer out from the now open hatch. Ichi peers his head out first, then Ni and finally San. King Ghidorah squeezes themselves through the tight porthole before spreading out his wing span to their fullest extent. King Ghidorah cackles with joy before restraining themselves, well except for San. Ichi and Ni give San a disapproving glare before lifting themselves off the xilien mothership. They collectively see Earth below them, though at first glance they hardly recognised it since the tectonic plates have shifted somewhat the last time they were here. But another observation, glancing at the moon’s craters confirmed that this is indeed their archenemies home. King Ghidorah roars at the Earth, the false monster king divebombs towards the earth’s atmosphere.

Naha, Okinawa.

Reports from the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency report on a meteor heading towards the city. The meteor explodes over the okinawan capital, fire spreads across the sky before taking the shape of a massive golden three headed dragon. King Ghidorah roars as he announces his presence. King Shisa awakens from his slumber to challenge the space dragon, King Ghidorah grins as he accepts the local guardian kaiju’s challenge. Ghidorah rains down his gravity lightning beams around King Shisa. King Shisa roars back at the golden demise, his yellow puppy dog eyes glow with a charge behind them. Ichi, Ni, and San laugh at the canine kaiju attempt to look threatening, their cackles were cut short when King Shisa fires his eye beams into the one who is many. King Ghidorah is shoved further into the air, Ichi and Ni sneer at King Shisa no longer amused. King Ghidorah flew at neck breaking speed as he extended his talons to grab a hold of the okinawan guardian beast. King Shisa barks at the golden dragon wrapped his feet and tail around his body, King Ghidorah quickly lifts off in the air as the guardian struggles to free himself. Shisa fires his eye beams into Ichi’s neck. Ichi hissed, Ni and San quickly bit into Shisa’s arms pulling them away while Ichi charged up his gravity beam. Shisa roars definitely at the false king, he fires his eye beam into Ichi’s face blasting off his top horn and left horns. Ichi’s head jerked away, he dragged out a furious snarl. Ni and San bite harder into Shsia’s arms as Ichi begins charging another gravity beam. Shisa ears fold back, he peel back his lips flashing his canines at Ghidorah. Ichi fires his gravity beam but not at Shisa, the guardian beast’s ears perk up as he hears the screams of the okinawa people cry out for him. All three of King Ghidorah’s heads cackle at King Shisa, the guardian beast begins to whimper. King Ghidorah releases the guardian beast laughing at him as he plummets back to okinawa.

Kong washes up on the shores of Okinawa, exhausted from his long swim. There Kong spotted Shisa, he removed the rubble from the dying canine. Kong looked up in the sky and saw King Ghidorah flying away, Kong reached over to his harness made from chitanosaur hide, he pulls out a large fruit. He crushes the fruit as he squeezes the juices into Shisa’s mouth. Kong relocates Shisa’s shoulder and hip before leaving him to follow Ghidorah.

1 year later…
Antarctica, zeta ruins.

King Ghidorah landed on the frozen ancient city remains, Ichi, Ni, and San sniffed around the ancient ruins seeking away into the hollow earth. There he spots the newly constructed M-COM base, magrail trains depart and arrive from a massive chasm. Ghidorah could smell an odd energy source resonating from within the chasm. King Ghidorah squeezes himself into the chasm, his weight crushes the magrail rendering it inoperable, not that King Ghidorah cares anyway.

Hollow Earth, Antarctica region.

King Ghidorah emerges from a massive waterfall, Ichi peeks out from the waterfall first as he surveys the landscape. Ni and San are then allowed to peek through the waterfall before moving the rest of their body on through. King Ghidorah spreads his wings as he announces his presence to all the denizens in the Hollow Earth. A Warbat attempts to challenge the golden demise, Ghidorah quickly subdues the warbat before eating it alive. King Ghidorah takes to the sky, his size has no rival even among the other kaiju that dwell there.

He passes over the ruins of an ancient civilization surrounded by purple crystalline metals. King Ghidorah travels far across the hollow earth, a familiar scent caught his attention.

Hollow Earth, Japan-Kanto Region.

There trapped in an amber-like substance, Desghidorah remained. King Ghidorah lands roughly near his trapped sister. Ichi, Ni, and San charge up their gravity beams before releasing the energy into the amber-like prison. The amber began to crack under the intensity, King Ghidorah halted his attack as he noticed something began to stir within the amber. Desghidorah opened her collective six eyes. King Ghidorah collectively smiled as his sister began to hatch from her prison. Desghidorah slowly rose to her feet, she extended her wings out to their fullest extent as she cracked her three necks. Desghidorah’s middle head remained stoic, her left head flashing her teeth, while her right head began licking San for being a good boy.
Both King Ghidorah and his sister Desghidorah took to the skies as they wandered the hollow earth. Above them a bright light permeated the sky while flying continents drift above giving the plants below a form of nightfall from the burning mantle. Giant flying turtle Gamera ignored the two Ghidorah as he gobbled up the flying fish from the lake below. Godzilla-like creatures known as Jirahs and Gomess battle for territory, Jirahs while similar to the Pacific Godzilla they are distinctive due its fleshy neck frill and its orange coloration while the unrelated ceratosaurian Gomess has a large nose horn that curves downward. The Jirahs flares out its frill to immediate the Gomess, while the Gomess stands its ground while roaring back.

Desghidorah and her younger brother King Ghidorah made their ways into the deep chasm. Mount Fuji hangs in the distant background as people continue their daily lives on the streets of Tokyo. Cars slowly moved across the highways as people migrated from sidewalk to sidewalk. Bullet trains arrive and depart to and from other stations across Japan. All seemed normal. The ground began to slowly rumble, the people of Tokyo like clockwork began to assume the earthquake positions, duck and cover. The ice sheet at the mountain’s peak began an avalanche as the rock crumbled into itself. Massive black draconic wings stretched out of the caldera as three dragon-like heads arose from the dormant volcano. Desghidorah roars like a demonic elephant as she announces herself to the people of Tokyo. Behind her, King Ghidorah flew out of Fuji caldera as he took to the skies. Desghidorah growls at her brother to come back which he did. Desghidorah sniffs the air as she turns her attention to King Ghidorah, she hisses an order to him before taking off into the sky herself. King Ghidorah flapped his wings as he made his way to the center of the great city. King Ghidorah grasped his taloned feet on Tokyo Tower; he taps his massive sickle thumb toe claw as he waits for his sister to perform the ritual. M-Com fighter jets swarm the golden demise with cluster missiles. King Ghidorah directs his right head, Ni to bite down on a transformer. Ni drinks up all of its energy before spitting the metallic contraption into the streets. Ghidorah’s golden feathered mane sticks up from the static before releasing his bio-electrical energy into every nearby, the ground rumbles as buildings crumble from his prowess.

After Desghidorah has finished carving a massive pentagram into the city, she lands in the center of the pentagram, she calls out to King Ghidorah to join her. Together the ghidorah siblings fire their gravity beams into the air, the energy radiating through the ley lines of the pentagram mixes with the air and the sibling’s gravity beams. The charged gravity beams rips a whole in the fabric of space. A black void now hangs over the city of Tokyo, thunderous roars echo from within the void as four glowing red eyes stare out from the darkness. Black hands slip out of the darkness as they grab around the space-fabric, the eyes grow closer to the portal, the front set of eyes are larger than the side eyes as the monster’s snout pushes itself out of the void. Its head was predominately white with shades of dark grey covering its lower jaws, the front glowing eyes seemingly belong to this creature alone, could there be more of them? It wasn’t until the skull faced beasts pulled the rest of itself out of the void, revealing the other eyes were from half head-like structures growing from its shoulders. The creature announced its presence as it propels itself into the center of the pentagram.