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 ah yes, t h i c c

Gonna pick it up...Now to find the time!

It'd be cool if David would narrate the history of the Engineers. He must know a bit about them after ten years?

David ( voice over )"...The Engineers ever expanding empire was never seriously challenged..."

Footage of juggernauts and large cities.

"..But all good things must come to an end....."

Footage of death and destruction.

"The arrival of the Slomalgut ( dead ones ) championed their end. A terrifying race of super beings, bent on the cultivation of living tissue....."

"...The Engineers quickly began modifying themselves in a failed attempt to slow down the Slomalgut ....."

G. H. (Gman)

It seems more disconnected though. The mentions of radiation we get at all is a chart showing Godzilla’s contamination after atomic breath and a mention of the element radon (which is radioactive.) 

I was going to finish the thought I do think that even if not said radiation is very applicable in the story. Archetype clouds do seem to stylistically resemble mushroom clouds. But  I think the most poignant example could be the scene where professor li dies. There’s a bomb like cloud and Rodan come soon after. The survivors hide under what appears to be thick concrete 

I’d just like more of an implied connection. I think directly stating it might ruin it, but implying it would add a whole lot to the origin

HinikunaGoji,
Given that there's still a great deal yet to be resolved in Singular Point, the nagging question of why monsters appeared in our dimension has the opportunity to alleviate these issues. And if not there's still enough post-war and (oddly enough) pre-WWII thematic elements that keep it tied to the monster and its kin. As I've said before, it's less about the bomb and more about the figurative fallout that followed. Godzilla may have been born of the bomb, but he existed in the post-war, which is by and large what the series has been about.

The Monsterverse was problematic with how it played with the subject of radioactivity/the bomb from the get-go. But after King of the Monsters I'm convinced it shouldn't even bother--Though GvK is not a suitable alternative. If there are to be more, I hope it angles its themes with more significant thought.

Seems it could be FUN.....

Sadly i do-not have the Spec PC for this (mine is 15 Years Old) and well my Power House Games Console is a PS3/Xbox360 which i have NOT Played in 5 Years lol

Maybe one of those could do with a Long Overdue UPGRADE but i said that with the NEW Star Wars Battle Front (I had/loved the Originals from 2004-2005).

I will add that we have NOT yet had a Conclusion... and so we can Speculate a Little.

IF they got to Conclude the Prequels we could always be Introduced to Taller Humanoids who they can Reveal as either a Sub-Creation of the Engineers or even the Engineers Creators.  They could make this Race/Being as 10ft Tall and they could be Very Human/Engineer looking or maybe Slightly Different.

Maybe like this? or even Less Human.

I do Suspect that IF we got a Conclusion then the Revelation i Suspect would have been either a Sub-Creation by David or David himself.  Even if this would NOT be 13-15ft Tall... i dont think RS would have Cared about HOW things looked Physically it would be as Michelle said... HOW the STORY FITS and is TOLD that is more Important to Ridley Scott.

Regarding the Space Jockey being something the Engineers had Created/Engineered.... then YES i think that was what we was being SHOWN as FAR as the LV-223 Engineers being those PILOTS and also being a Enhanced Super Soldiers of their Society.

IF we are willing to ACCEPT those LV-223 Engineers are a Engineered/Enhanced version of the Engineers then WHO is to say the Engineers have NOT got even more BIGGER GUYS they have Genetically Enhanced?

The Middle Image is what we would have GOT had say the Space Jockey Suit been about 10ft as Intended before Mid-Production and Shooting.

While its NOT as BIG as the 13ft Space Jockey, it would look Close Enough and well the GUY had Grown out of his Chair ;)

And who is to say there are NOT like 9-10ft Engineers or Sub/Enhanced Creations?

I dont think that RS had EVER intended to show us the Actual Space Jockey from ALIEN so it did-not Matter to him (Kept it a Mystery), but with the Direction of AC i think had he Concluded the Prequels it would NOT have bothered HIM if we had to Accept the Space Jockey would be the SAME as the Pilot in Prometheus.

But i do Suspect he would have THROWN a Curve-ball that would have Displeased the Fans.

I think Regarding what Ridley Scott had intended, then for me it was NO Surprise the Space Jockey were BALD HUMANOIDS as this is WHAT we saw with HR Gigers Concepts for ALIEN, and also his Space Jockey Concept looked like a Space Suit.

It was intended to have a Taller Race of Engineers but it was a Creative Decision at the Time of some of the Production to go with a Smaller Engineer/Space Jockey Race because Ridley Scott does Prefer to be as Practical as Possible and like to NOT use CGI if he can.  This is in Part as to WHY we had Zombie Fifield as RS was a Fan of the Work that Sean Haris had put into the Action Scene.

I think that YES there are Differences Aesthetically between the Derelict and Juggernaught and Engineers Space Suit and the Space Jockey, but these are INTENDED and RS was Happy with the Result, while they MAY-NOT look the Same they are Intended to be for all Intensive Purposes and RS does-not LOOSE any Sleep over HOW they are NOT like Identical etc.

The Scale of the Engineer is something that RS does-not have a Issue with either, and so IF we had a Conclusion then maybe we should NOT go and Expect to see a 13ft Being in that Pilot Chair.

The Actual Pilot Chairs of the Derelict and Juggernaught are Similar, including the Size, its only in ALIEN and Prometheus the Pilots are NOT the same Size, but as Dallas has said "it looks like its GROWN out of the Chair" and so that could be ALL the Explanation we NEED/GET.

For me the Slight Aesthetical Differences were NO PROBLEM... the Scale was a BIT, i think its a Shame our  Engineers were NOT like 9-10ft Tall, but this does-not RULE-OUT there are 9-10ft Tall Engineers.

I love singular point, but I really want this resolved

True.

Yeah kind of like G-Energy but its T-energy

I love this game

Here's another on that shows a prototype for a pyroraptor plush (a VERY stylized one)

*Warning Spoilers!* It also shows a plush for a certain non-dinosaur creature that will appear in the movie:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jurassicpark/images/5/56/EvarbysXAAIyNOd.png/revision/latest?cb=20210302100420 

Here's a link to the pyroraptor toy image, I don't want to post the actual image just in case Universal has a problem with it being shown here:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jurassicpark/images/9/93/Evara0cXMAUdLs5.png/revision/latest?cb=20210302100336 

Because the toy is in a stylized chibi form, it probably isn't the best representation of the final design. Overall it looks like it's fully feathered with a large tail fan, it appears to have small wing feathers, although it's hard to tell what they'll fully look like in the movie.   

SasquaDash

The indifference from velociraptor is the real problem, but they do look a bit stockier. Also it looks like one of them is albino.

Just because raptors didn’t pack hunt doesn’t mean other dinosaurs didn’t. It’s suggested that T. rex might have.

I've seen leaked images of a chibi style pyroraptor toy, which looks similar to the JW: Alive design

Could you please share these if possible

"...evolutionary techniques on themselves"

This makes total sense from a human standpoint, who doesn't want to be taller, stronger, faster, etc...? I can only imagine what humans will do to themselves given the technology.  Instead of super soldiers...maybe designer genes are where it's at?

HinikunaGoji 

Yeah, I think they look pretty cool as well (I really like the patterns on the one in the third picture), my only nitpick is that I wish that they differentiated their designs from the classic velociraptor a bit more (they should have put a big fin on their heads, lol). Jokes aside, I am pretty excited to see them in action.

Personally I'm fine with the atrociraptors not having feathers, as we're also getting the pyroraptors which will be feathered (I've seen leaked images of a chibi style pyroraptor toy, which looks similar to the JW: Alive design). I like that we're getting both scaly raptors and feathered raptors in the movie, it's a good mix of new and old.

As far as the raptor pack hunting, it is kind of sad that they probably didn't do that. It is possible that they worked together to take down larger prey on occasion, but sadly it probably wasn't as common as once thought. I doubt that they'll change it for the movies, as the raptors are already well established as pack hunters in JP universe. That and the fact that JW isn't really going for 100% accuracy (which I'm personally ok with).

HinikunaGoji,
In Japan? My guess is not much longer. It's just not pulling enough attendance by this point. I'd give it another two weeks.

How long do you think it will be In Theaters

BEING THE PALEO PERSON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING AND AM DECIDEDLY SAYING IM BETTER THAN YOU, ITS INNACURATE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT FEATHERS.

Jokes aside I do think it looks great. Can’t wait to see more. Even if the size is wrong I’d be fine as long as it’s still smaller than the up velociraptors even by a little bit.

Also this might be a bad time to mention raptors probably didn’t pack hunt which is sad.

UPDATE 08/24/2021:
Godzilla vs. Kong continues to hang on at the Japanese box office. The film managed another $200,000 between its 7th and 8th weekends, currently sitting at 1.88 Billion Yen. ($17.2 Million)

In its 8th weekend attendance sits at 1.25 million--A little higher than expected, but unlikely to hit 1.30 million. (Kogyotsushin via World of KJ)

Ah like branching storylines

On the question of size and slight differences in design that is merely artistic licence. It is entirely clear from one of the Furious Gods Documentary PODS that they worked painstakingly to 'make' the reveal in Prometheus work and for the audience to make the connection. People may not like it but that's the reality.

My own view is that Monster Zero moves into much more fertile and interesting territory when he speculates on how the Space Jockey has come about. 

In my work, both the Juggernauts and their pilots are the result of playing with the creation tool. The Juggernauts are both alive and mechanical and the underlying matrix which drives them has one source which manifests itself in a number of different ways. 

The creatures of the Moon have not only pursued sub-creation through hosting but also experimented with evolutionary techniques on themselves and other living creatures. The thing that they created drives everything and in the case of ship/pilot leads to a symbiotic relationship which Elizabeth and to a much greater extent David interfaces with. 

I also felt it was important to elevate in the story the particular Engineer and his ship which became the SJ and Derelict. Like the Engineer celebrated/worshipped in the Pyramid, the SJ has a unique and important back story. 

In a sense what I am saying is the physical distinctions are much less important than how you place these characters in the story you wish to tell. If they are crucial to the story in a unique way that makes them "big" in a much more profound sense and can give them importance in a new and intreaguing way.  

Love that artwork!   ( Was the NewBorn done forming? Most think the Deacon, like the newborn, was an infant? Takes awhile for the xeno....)

I'd like to think the SpaceJockey ( Alien ) is a mutated military abomination created by the Engineers splicing their own genes. Creating super soldiers.....probably exactly what the militaries on Earth would do if they could!

So the Engineers created super soldiers and gave them modified / upgraded juggernauts? 

I still think you could Explore the Space Jockey as something Else.

As i have indicated on this Topic what we have is a Space Suit where its ONLY the Skull that looks kind of like a Skeleton.

I came Across this Work by Noely Ryan

I think its a BIT too much like the NewBorn but i could Imagine where the NOSE AREA is having a Snorkel/Breathing Pipe Connected to it that Connects to the Suit/Chair....  so the Suit does-not have a Helmet per-say and EVEN if we USE the other Fifield Concept that i have used in this TOPIC in the same Way.

I think either could WORK as a Alternative Space Jockey to Introduce them as a Different Taller Species.

"My character becoming a cyborg is based off of Dr. Eisenberg from the AVP2 video game, the events of AVP2/Primal Hunt is also canonical to my fanfiction"

Yeah the AVP2 Game was Good and this is the KIND of Time-Line that the AVP Movie should have been SET IN..... i do think Disney would Reboot the AVPU at some point.

When doing this  (AVP) you have the Freedom to Add/Remove some things from Canon, or Completely go and Re-Write it as a Alternative Take.

I think with the Removal of Alien 3: etc what Blomkamp was doing would be to say "hi guys lets just suppose that Ripley, Hicks and Newt all arrived Home Safe and Sound" and it was to OFFER a Alternative Path... it would NOT have been to make Alien 3 Null and Void but to just OFFER like a Alternative Future after ALIENS.  And so Fans could go and Enjoy Both Alternative Paths after ALIENS... or some could Choose to IGNORE his ALIEN V and stick with Alien 3 or Vice Versa.

The Brandywine Alien V (David Giler/Walter Hill) seemed that some MOVIES would have merely been DREAMS of Ellen Ripley... and who KNOWS to HOW FAR this would have gone... maybe it Happens Many Years after ALIEN and that all the Movies after and before ALIEN are just Dreams of Ripley... its Hard to say.

I will add that it may have been Disappointing to have NOT gone and Explored any Buildings apart from the Colossal Cathedral, there SIMPLY was No Time but we could have got some Closer Shots...

The Colossal Cathedral does have a Ancient Aesthetic to it but we have to BARE IN MIND that its like the Focal/Central Point its a Place of Great Importance like say Saint Peter's Basilica or the Pantheon in Italy, or even Hagia Sophia in Turkey for Example.

And so its Ancient and Important and still USED for Rituals/Religion etc.

We could go to the Year 2100 and the Saint Peter's Basilica will be Standing and Used, its NOT like people will be like "man this building is OLD, lets knock it down and build something Modern"

The Cathedral did have some Technology like on the Roof, its also Gigantic in Size, to the Left of the Cathedral and bit Forwards we have what looks like a Landing Platform too.  I think it would be Interesting to Explore and see the Engineers again either on other Worlds or maybe Flash Backs where we can see more of their Society and Technology and show us the Right Balance of a Ancient kind of Living with the Right Balance of Technology too.

In Star Wars we see a lot of Ancient looking Buildings/Palaces and Dress... why the Jedi and Sith seem to Wear Potato Sacks ;)  (joke) but then you also have that Technology like we see with the Storm Troopers and also Darth Vader.

I think with Prometheus we have TWO Contrasting Styles too the Elders/Sacrificial Scene and LV-223 Guys.... it seems the LV-223 could be more Military (which RS seems to Indicate) but to me their Suits seemed to be something more of a Bio-Hazard (Space Jockey) and so to LIKELY go and Offer Protection from the GOO....

The Under/Sleeper Suit seemed to ALLOW them to Connect to the Cryo-Sleep Pods but also seemed to be Fused to their Skin and seemed to ALLOW them to Breath outside on LV-223 where as in the Complex and Ships the Environment was Breathable to Humans.  And so a LOT of the more Modern and Bio-Mechanical Clothing/Suits could be Merely where it is Necessary rather than for any Day to Day, or Ritual/Cultural Reasons... and it Certainly seems that High Fashion is something the Engineers are NOT into, much like Forms of Entertainment (No 60" LED TV's and Games Consoles for them).

Its a Shame we NEVER saw much Technology of the Engineers, i would have LOVED to had seen this Orrery (even if just the Actual Projector and Hologram Display).

You could have then had David talk to Oram/Daniels more about their Colonization Mission and where they are going....  Which they would say Origae-6 in the XXX Constellation and then David could show them the ORRERY and Operate it and then Select the System and Zoom in on it....

Oram could say they are looking to Escape Earth and Start a New Eden... then David could say well it looks NOTHING like Paradise, bit Baron i suppose then Quote "there is nothing in the desert. No man needs nothing" then David could ask WHY they came here instead (Planet 4) and Oram can say because it looked more Suitable.  Then David could say YES what a Paradise this was, then say the Galaxy has Many Earth like Worlds, the Engineers have been Very Busy but are Very Protective.

Something like this in a Scene with that ORREY would have shown off the Engineers Technology, it would give a Insight to Oram that Mankind are NOT alone in the Galaxy and that Edens like Earth are Everywhere.....

A Scene like ABOVE would also be a Plot Device to HOW the Engineers could Find David.... because they could go to the ORREY and see that its been SET to take a Close Look at Origae-6.... so Returning Engineers could then be like.... WHY? Lets go Check it out... "maybe this is where those who did this to our World have gone!"

Saw this too….

Interesting Sony is listed as working in it, maybe disney and Sony came to an agreement 

Thanks

" I would have been fine with maybe twenty extra minutes,"

I think what we have to Remember is the STUDIO would like to get the Movie to be Seen by as Many as they can, and thats to Attract like NOT ONLY the Hardcore Fanbase... but the Casual Viewer and so its a Case of them thinking would the Casual Audience want to SIT through say 2.5-3 Hours?

When you make a STORY/DRAFT that would Equate to say LONGER and so would NOT FIT within say a 100 Min Run Time.... then sometimes they CUT like 20-40 Min Of Footage from what was say Intended as a 120-150 Min Story and so YEAH this can have a Effect..... some Deleted Scenes really do HELP us with the Story...

"The Engineers didn't even need to have Space-Jockey suits"

Yeah there could be Suits they can have for Certain Needs like Space Flights, we have to Assume that David and Dr Shaw had NOT Needed any Suits to CONTROL/FLY the Juggernaught.

I know that some Fans are Disappointed we NEVER had more of a Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic but as i said before if we IGNORE the Juggernaught then LV-223 was a Place that Never had a LOT of that Derelict Aesthetic either.

We do-not get to see a CLOSE LOOK at the City but its NOT ALL the Look of say Rome some 2000+ Years ago.  There is some Similarity because it would seem that the Engineers Designs had Influenced our Ancient Structures.... It would have been NICE to see some Pyramids on Planet 4.

The Engineers have a Very Ritualistic/Cultist look about their Culture, so they Build and Dress for Practicality, and so we DO-NOT see the Variation of Fashion as we do say in Modern Earth Cities.  And so its has i have said they would LIVE like say how AMISH people do... if you go to a AMISH VILLAGE you dont see much Diversity or Color with their Clothing... other Cultures are like this... (I dont Intend this to become Political) but if we look at the Variation of Dress in Afghanistan say 25+ Years ago, compared to say LAST 5.... well NOW in 10 Years maybe we can see that Country go back to where People would WEAR more Similar Clothing....

So its a Cultural thing about Modesty and Practicality, and so a Buddhist Monk has NO NEED for like Wearing Sports Clothing and NIKE! Sneakers/Trainers etc.

So the Engineers Dress similar to say Most Humans would have like say Hundreds of Years ago (500+), it would seem they may DRESS in Different Stuff for Certain Reasons..... like Military or Space Exploration.

So the Above is NOT what we Wear on a Day to Day Basis.... and so the Engineers as FAR as something more Futuristic like the LV-223 Engineers could be something they DO for like Space Travel/Military...

The Sacrificial Engineers Scene they all WORE the same kinds of Garments that we saw the Planet 4 Engineers wearing.

"Bombing worlds with Xeno-weapons is one of the things that I imagine them to do, but there could be more to the Engineers than that"

Yeah there is more to them than that.... but depends on WHAT i just dont see them being as Varied in Interests, Hobbies and Past Times as what Modern Man has.... so they would likely LIVE in more Basic Manner.

But thats NOT to say there are other Engineer Worlds and Engineers who will Dress in a Different Way, depending on what their Role is....

Some Concept Work (so seems) had a more Different Looking Engineer City but the Engineers still Dressed the same as we saw in Alien Covenant. The Concept Works for Prometheus the Engineers wore Robes in some Concepts and just Loincloth in others.... apart from the Space Jockey Suits etc.

Again there is the Potential to go to other Engineer Worlds were there could be a Different Aesthetic to their Dress and Architecture.

"Does he care about the Engineers?"

I think he does..... the Question is would they be LINKED or make a Appearance in the TV Series?  This could be a RISK but so the same can be said about THE PLOT in General if we are going to have it SET on Earth in a Time-Line prior to say 2090

"What about a pyramid or a strange building in general? We have already seen derelicts/ empty space-ships"

With a NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE setting they its UNLIKELY it will be the Same kind of Plot of say ALIEN it could be the Xenomorph Threat could be Unearthed on Earth.... YEAH AVP again ;)

The Above is LIKELY were our Xenomorph Threat will come from..... It has that Engineer Aesthetic to it.... so its either the Inside of a Ship or a Complex... maybe it could be a Pyramid etc?

It could be Likely this is on EARTH and so its a Question of WHEN/HOW?

It looks Submerged to a Degree so i think its a Sunken Ship or Sunken Outpost.

There really is NOT a LOT that we know at the Moment.... just it seems the TV Series will touch upon the Tech Giants and Corps and how they USE others to GET what they Want...... and so we will see People from more Common or Poor Backgrounds think they are getting a OPPORTUNITY but they are going to be Merely Pawns..... so it will show Cases of the Worst of Humanity but then we will see maybe the Best of Humanity too.

It does seem it will Address A.I as a Threat.... but the we will see a Ancient Threat come into PLAY (Xenomorph?  maybe Engineers?).   But depending on the Time-Line i think this either will REBOOT or NOT be Canon (Alternative Canon) or i CANT THINK of HOW it WONT go and Conflict the Franchise.

At the Moment i am a Little Concerned.

"You can have no Xenos but have variations of it. Star Wars is about more than the Skywalkers"

Exactly ;)  I think the Prequels with Prometheus had OPENED UP the Franchise to more Possibilities its just Unfortunate that we may LIKELY never see these Explored. (inc Engineers)

"Colonists is a possibility, space-military, corporate garbage, chemistry, nukes, biological weapons, pharma-companies, space-gangsters"

I think these are more LIKELY as far as the TV Series and IF we get another Alien Movie, i think you will see Xenomorph Connections but i think other Elements above could be Fleshed Out.... i also think that A.I will be Explored more too.  Sadly more about the Engineers, what other Worlds/Races they Created, their History/Agenda and Horrors are things i am NOT sure we will see again.... NOT SOON anyway.

I think we would be more LIKELY to see some kind of Reboot/Retcon of Canon/Plot when we get our TV Series and any Movies.

If we get a COMPLETE REBOOT... as i said before all you have to KEEP is the ALIEN and the Company... you dont need same Characters, or Same Ship or Exact same Plot....  as thats just a REHASH! (Robocop)

I would be OPEN for a RE-IMAGINING though. (Planet of the Apes).

"One is a director that is tired of the monster so it's just shown fast, he is interested in David so we get scenes that are dragged out"

Yeah there was Quite a LOT to the PLOT and they would have a Run-Time to try and FIT it all in, and it seemed RS was NOT a Fan of the Monsters he wanted a BIGGER STORY to be Told and a LOT of that would Revolve through David which i know some Fans are NOT that into.

I get the Impression that RS was NOT really a FAN of making a Prometheus Sequel into a Monster Movie, it seemed Creation, Rebellion and other Themes are WHAT he wanted to Cover and it would seem the LACK of Screen Time for the Engineers is NOT really what he would have Wanted... but its a Result of the STUDIO wanting to make the Prometheus Sequel become a Trilogy Series to then Connect to ALIEN and so the Xenomorph would have to come into Play and looking at HOW you have to have the Xenomorph Creation and then HOW it gets onto LV-426 with a Time-Line where there would be NO Xenomorphs as of 2095 meant they had to Shoe-Horn a lot into the Movie, which included bringing in more HUMANS and this is HENCE why our Planet 4 was so CLOSE to Earth.

I think that many Movies have Throw Away Characters who are Required for PLOT DEVICES and to Allow Certain Part of the Plot to Unfold.  Unfortunately if you cant get Good Character Development then you just WONT CARE about the Death of Certain Characters.  When you are doing a Action/Horror then its NOT that Easy to have say 5-8 Characters you can Really Connect with. Prometheus was NOT so Bad.... but again the Characters who you could Connect with NEEDED more Screen Time and with Alien Covenant well you just could NOT go and Connect with MOST of the Characters.

Its a Problem with you have say 2-3 other Characters you Connect with (who have Less Screen Time) more than the Main 2 Characters (not Inc David/Walter).

AVPR may have not done too Good at the Box Office, but its a Shocking Bad Movie, that is something you just cant go and watch more than 2-3 Times...

"New things are welcome if you ask me"

It seemed this was what RS had in Mind before the STUDIO felt you had to have the Xenomorph, and they could have had Similar and Changed it but it seems the STUDIO felt you had to have Xenomorphs and with TRYING to do something NEW its a Case of Certain Fans will EXPECT to have Xenomorphs and for those to NOT be Changed too much......  The Studio also thinking this is WHAT the Fans want.

I Fear if we get a TV Series or Movie then the Xenomorph will be WHAT they think has to PLAY a Big Part and its a Case of IF they have New Things would those be about Engineers, Different Horrors, Different Worlds/Races?

I doubt it NOW... so it be Basically similar to Alien-Alien 4 etc but maybe they would DELVE into the Company and WHY they want the Xenomorph more.

The Xenomorph is Iconic... i just Wonder as to HOW OFTEN can you just Rinse and Repeat?

The way things are at Disney, I doubt they'll hire Margot Robbie as Ripley.

AVPU on the timeline is between 2193-2230

So many of the events from the expanded universe have happened like the aforementioned Earth War Trilogy since the prologue is heavily dependent on the Earth War Trilogy canon due to a xenomorph infestation taking place on earth.

My character becoming a cyborg is based off of Dr. Eisenberg from the AVP2 video game, the events of AVP2/Primal Hunt is also canonical to my fanfiction. 

I wrote AVPU to be a unifications of all the Alien canons, I only remove certain canons if they contradict Prometheus, Alien Covenant (Novel), Alien, or Aliens. While also writing an original story around these ideas.

I know some people might be lost if they read AVPU, since I don't think all Alien fans would read the comics or play the video games.

Like MonsterZero prefers a more streamline and simplified timeline over the long history of how the alien universe developed from humble beginnings to when the xenomorph was discovered, then rediscovered, then lost to time, to resurrection of the species.

it appears that i have been corrected

monsterzero9 it’s not a list for a future monster but an idea they had

monsterzero9
I appear to be in the minority that thinks it isn’t confusing