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Also in one of the trailers the guy who is throwing also has elongated arms and legs. Not sure if thats supposed to throw us off or what. So we have 3 different looks of burning mohawk guy. Not sure what to think anymore! Can't wait

Yes... I definately think it will have something to do with an unwanted sexual impregnation type of thing. The eel thingy though... Not sure yet. I do believe everythingn is out of sequence and meant to mislead, but using the prior Alien movies as a guide... The EEL LIKE thing that can burrow or bite was always the aftermath of a CHESTBURST and that eel like thing would in turn grow extremely rapidly into whatever new life form it is. Is it that this EEL will in effect be a "re-surrected" BLUE MEANIE ??

Fantastic ... love the responses to that ;) ... but you see what else you can derive from a weird thought though eh? ... I can lay rest that theory of mine is b*ll*x then ... phew ... damn this is getting harder by the hour now ...

It does look like he is mutating thats for sure, and maybe he is the crew member who has that Organism that enters his suit via a tear in it? I think a important clue that could do with answers could be the scene with Shaw running away from a Tenticle type Organism... here. [img]http://www.folko.de/images/tentacle1.jpg[/img] If we find out what, where and when with this scene it could answer a lot for us. Is this a simular organism that gets into the one crewmens Suit via tear? Is this what becomes to the Organism that they take out of Shaw? Or does this Organism impregnant her? The Mohhawk guy Fifield could indeed be mutating into maybe Proto Xeno, but who knows. I think this Movie has so many un answered questions and maybe when we see it, it could be that a lot of stuff we assume could be very wrong indeed. I expect it to be a think outside the box kind of movie.

The cave markings appear to have been made by humans. Perhaps this was information dispersed as mythology, originating at one source and carried to other parts of the world through human migrations. The fidelity of the proportions seems unlikely but not impossible. Also, Shaw admits "We were so wrong." Perhaps she was wrong about it being an invitation in the first place. History may have erased the original motive for the star map. As in "Alien" it may have been a warning.

Yes... In the literal myth, I think we are formed from CLAY by the Titan Prometheus. But I feel that is in fact the first modern man at the moment of being created out of whatever the "Jockey" for lack of a better word has done.

That´s a cool theory but I don´t think that will be the outcome. In a interview I read ages ago one of the exec said we will "be seeing the alien as it is". That the alien bound and get the shape of the organism it attacks. The xenomorph in alien looks like that because the human. In Alien 3 the dog etc etc. Now we will see what it looks like with no host. More: In an interview they said we "would see the gorilla of the alien". I think that the alien we know is a weapon the spacejockeys made for cleaning out planets before they terraform it. Or after they terraform it like this. The alien "mimic" the host and so on become a more lethal predator and can live in that particular condition.

its from the official UK trailer.. yeah, the different angle was discussed I think..and in the other trailer s he is NOT burning.. PERHAPS we see different production stages in the trailers, I mean, it could be that the fire was edited graphically in the later version .. they didnt think that 4000 Pro freaks were anatomizing the trailers so much..hahah

Think also about Shaw having that thing removed from her belly, right near the liver.

Good point as it does look in that scene as though some kind of liquid is moving through the guys veins and it looks like his head has a dent or damage to it. In the scene slowed down you see movement in that damage to Skull you also see the viens apear. It could be a disease but also could look like he is repairing himself. So with that CanadaPhil maybe he started not as clay but some kind of clay like liquid substance and this substance is changing into that humaniod Character. So maybe it is the first Man being created from some kind of Sludge?

I think he brought vision to Alien. As a director, who directs things, the movie would have been much different visually, emotionally and rhythmically had it been someone else. And let's face it, apart from the Weyland plan, or Ash's hidden nature, Alien's story isn't the thing that makes the movie great.

Hi GEM, ( you with the pictures) I don´t know how to make hi-res picture in this forum but could you check out the English IMAX trailer (1.11 min length). And try to zoom in on the dead person lying in the background at 00:52 seconds!!! Who´s lying there!!!

Yes, I suppose that could make sense if it is the Prometheus were landing on the road. Seems like such a sacrilegious act! That would be like an alien race visiting us and landing on one of our graveyards! We will have to see how this storm is played out in the final film, but it sure looks like a direct result of the end of paradise! Perhaps after the explorers have desecrated some alien artifact, or as a direct result of David's theft of some alien bioform material.

Big Dave, That's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking would embarrass Ridley.

Ridley likes ideas that are terrifying in and of themselves without the help of visual effects. That's not to say he won't make them visually terrifying as well, but I think for something to be embarrassing for him, it would have to happen to a woman and have some sexual component. I don't think he would be embarrassed by having [i]anything[/i] happen to a male character. What do you think?

I think of "Bladerunner" as Film Noir with SciFi elements in the same way I see "Alien" as a horror film with SciFi elements. It's not a straight up SciFi like "2001: A Space Oddyssey". I don't think "Bladerunner" was ever meant to be the kind of action-scifi we're used to today. I like that it's introspective and dark and melancholy.

Are these screen shots from the IMAX trailer? I noticed that shot seemed different in the IMAX trailer compared to the other ones....seems like the guy throwing the other guy is at a different angle

Well one of the other Giger Art Works that contains a Eel like Organism, does depict a Scene that we cant go posting on here. In that one Art Work lets say we see a Eal that decides to entre a mutating female by a certain passage. Which would make a WTF Scene and 100% make this movie a No Chance PG-13 If i used that Artwork as a basis of a idea, as to a clue. Then maybe that scene with that Tenticle/Eel thats chassing after Shaw ends up catching her and well maybe thats how she gets Pregnant with Squidy?

There's one shot of him where you can see that his head has swelled up a little, bulging like a mutant: [URL=http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/Mutant.jpg][IMG]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/th_Mutant.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

^^^^ I think none of this. How is any of that in any way embarassing? I think we have need even had a look at the truly "embarassing" thing yet. And I believe Giger himself when asked if something is going to make an appearance, I think he used a phrase something like.... "There is going to be something new, and it will be very GRAUSLICH". For a certifiable weirdo like Giger to say something like Its going to be very "Grauslich", sort of makes me think we have NOT seen the WTF moment yet.

Now thats very odd..... I assumed that the crew members was burning something and that mutated man jumps from ATV to Stop them. But indeed in that shot he is also on fire, so maybe he is being burnt then jumps on ATV to get out of way and then attacks again. I just dont know anymore, also some of those images the Space suit looks a little Space Jockey, now the one scene of suposed Space Jockey near Shaw looks smaller than the Blue Guy scene. I guess the more we look into the trailers the more of a puzzle this movie becomes.

what exact trailer is this from ? I couldnt get such a clear pic even from the HD trailer..

I think I've got it: One of the SJs figures out Shaw has daddy issues, so he gets her drunk and plays the role, then lets his worm buddy impregnate her when she's passed out.

Yeah you're right, UNLESS...ummm...I got nothing. I know Ridley said that he was embarrassed about how gruesome some of the movie was when asked if there were any "treats" like the chestburster scene. So, what would embarrass him more?

Putting it in could be a posibility but then you would see it in the stappled up scene as she would have a bump like being pregnant.

The "cut it out" scream sounds like a man.

Yeah, you guys are assuming you know the chronology of these scenes in the story. Why couldn't they be putting it inside her instead of taking it out?

Looks like shaw is the fallen hero & vicker's mayb the real one. Ridley alws has an element of surprise. No wonder vicker's has a imp role. Sm1 shouts "cut it out". Could be related to this scene

Oh... hahaha. Also, I should have pointed out that I dont think thats a "Jockey" there? Many have said that its the "bad" Jockey now being punished and witinessing his disease or torment unfold? I see that guy as literally being our grand daddy! :) ... and thats him trying to come to grips with who/what he is after being formed "out of clay" so to speak from "Prometheus".

I also came across this.. [img]http://cdn.chud.com/6/65/65f5c536_61671200.jpeg[/img] This could be most likely a fan made Zbrush image and not taken from the film.

Haha Phil ... I didn't mean literally ... I meant with all the different organisms/species they may have on that saucer ... they then bung it all on Earth ;) ... beginning of time, etc ... Ok ... I'm clutching at straws lately lol ... I'M DESPERATE !!! :) ...

Here are the captures from the trailer I was referring to: [URL=http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/Shaw2.jpg][IMG]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/th_Shaw2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/Shaw1.jpg][IMG]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/vibrator1/th_Shaw1.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Yeah but the staples could be used either way ... putting it in or taking it out ;) ... Ok ... I'll go with taking it out ... :) ...

@Jacques i was going to post the same thing. Indeed all things add up to her having that organism cut out of her. I orginally thought the Squidy was a Proto Face Hugger and i did see the umbilical cord but it looked like she had the Squidy thing held above her face. I thought the above mainly due to lack of Blood. But once other trailers came out it showed a scene looking at her legs it showed the arm that later held the Squidy Organism being empty and moving to inbetween her legs. Combined with the Stapples in the other scene does show that she had somethin taken out of her and that being Squidy. The biggest Mystrey would be how long was that Organism in her, when did the other Crew find out. And how dis it get there. There is one scene where Shaw is hidding behind a Door and you can see a large Tenticle or what apears to be, trying to get her. Is that. 1) That Squidy thing taken from her that escapes and grows? 2) Some Organism that maybe catches her and impregnants her with Squidy? 3) Is it the same kind of Organism that gets into the tear in one of the crews Space Suits? I think that that scene has a lot of unanswered questions. [img]http://www.folko.de/images/tentacle1.jpg[/img] [img]http://cdn.chud.com/7/7d/7d59dbe3_Pho0T.gif[/img] Now when i first saw that creature get inside the suit, i looked at Gigers work and he does have a Art Work where we see a Eel like creature with a Aliens head. [img]http://jfjacobs.com/Gallery/albums/SciFi-05/0uro0010_h_r_giger_alien_monster_lll.jpg[/img] Look at this beasts Tail and it looks simular to what gets into the Crew Members Space suit.

Huhhh??... Nothing Noah's Ark about that. From what I understand, most theory sort of believes that our present state began as an offshoot of primitive apelike ancestors who began becoming bi-pedal.. but we sure as heck still did NOT look like veiny guy in the still yet. (I think the famous African "Lucy" skeletal fossils have been dated to about 1 million years??) Anyway, at some point (I think 50-100,000 ish years ago), there was clearly SOME CHANGE in us that happened that finds us where we are today. Could this be the event? Where our very primitive ape cousins with the very thick boney Neandertal skulls were set on their path to us?? A little cosmic intervention perhaps? And an "unauthorized" intervention at that?? Bad, bad, Prometheus!!

Well i think the Prometheus Myth/Story could have a lot to do with what this movie is about. He created Mankind from Clay and gave it life from himself. He then also Stole Fire from the Gods to give to Man. He was punished for this. In the Waterfall scene if you view it in real slow motion you can see that a Blue Guy/Space Jockey seems to have some kind of afliction or disease is this the punishment that he has to endure for the creation of Mankind? I also think that the Prometheus Myth plays not only a role for the Space Jockey in the creation of Mankind. But also with mankind well the Crew of Prometheus also being Prometheus in that they by acident create another kind of lifeform from messing about and trying to steal another peice of forbiden Technology of the Gods. Thus maybe the Stroy will tell of how Space Jockeys created Man, but maybe its Man who creates the Xeno from Alien?

There are two key pieces of evidence from the trailers that support the idea that Shaw undergoes a C section-type operation in the MedPod. 1) You can clearly see an umbilical cord connecting the squid-like creature to Shaw's abdominal region in the scene where she is struggling in the pod. 2) In the scene when she is stumbling down the corridor in her space underwear, you can see that her abdominal region has been stitched up or stapled.

We're definitely NOT going down the Noah's Ark route are we ... I'm sure people have ruled that out already? ... ;) ...

Yes i could be showing it vistiting Earth in that scene. And indeed after that it returns back to their world where it becomes that Temple Complex that would make a lot of sence.

I am actually glad that the jockey is a humanoid. While the idea of an "elephantine" creature as a biomechanoid that's stuck to the chair and fossilized seems incredibly interesting, the same elephantine creature walking around seems a bit silly and too "Star Wars-ish". The fact that the SJ's are humanoid makes them all the more eerie to me. And just because its not an elephantine creature stuck to a chair doesn't mean its no longer a biomechanoid. I think its clear that the suit and the SJ are meant to be biomechanoid. (i.e. "Guyver" style.)