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His brother got the job at disney world instead of him.

lol

I am in the camp of there being two races. I also believe that the trailers are misleading. In looking at the cave paintings, this one in particular -[img]http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg499/betterduckjmg/Screenshot2012-03-26at13341PM.png[/img] it appears these 'giants' have been recorded by early humans, and revered as Gods. We might conclude that they are benevolent creatures. The plot is said to use Greek mythology as inspiration. As most of us know, the original Gods (the Titans) and the new Gods (the Olympians) have it out, and the Zeus led Olympians seize power. Suppose the SJ's were the original Titans, and the Blues were the Olympians. This might explain the carnage found by the Prometheus crew, and the dead bodies and the severed head that they come across. One of Weyland's patents is the device that can reactivate brain activity, postmortem. Suppose the Prometheus crew uses this to activate the SJ head that is found, and subsequently get the 'low down' on what has been going on. The Blues may not even be on that planet when Prometheus arrives. The humans stick there nose where it doesn't belong, perhaps releasing something that was contained (maybe SJ DNA), much like Hercules releasing Prometheus from the rock, the Blues get pissed, and decide to cut us humans down a few notches.

Cool; I'll have to check it out when I get home. Of course the site's block at work....lol...

first obvious one... The FEMALE form IS THE 'DERELICT' or any SJ vessel for that matter. Actually, Im gonna stop there.. Hahaha... Gonna wait until I finalize all my thoughts before I lay it out completely. My main issue to resolve was that my assumptions were based on the XENO as we think of it not quite existing yet, but now Im not so sure... Im am now even leaning towards the idea that the "new" Overlords that have not been seen yet are in FACT THE "PROTO" XENOMORPHS.. hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Why do they do it? maaaaaan

"Snorky" he has The Goo all over him... and IMO... it's what Killed him, they {His Predecessor Race} try to warn us {Thus the time travel element} - {it's not us - it's that predecessor race that can time travel}and fail, 'cause we misinterpret the entire matter and take/steal some some of the vials which in turn creates the scenerio designed to end the existence of earth as we know it, except The Company, which sees all through Vicker's and David's eyes arranges... for that delivery of Earth's certain demise to be intercepted. What we are left with is a rotted Dereiict laid Baron on LV-426...One dead delivery boy... And a Pack of Vials turned to "Xeno-Eggs" beneath it !!!

@ canadaphil - I'm a big fan of Giger's art, no light bulb there. His designs are def still a factor of the mythology, but not the key. @ Biehn_Bandit - genetic memory is a possibility, and would fit, but the question is why? why have the memory or be given instructions to visit/avoid a SJ controlled planet?

Where? you just trying to get hits? I went there and there's only photos we have already seen. Please dont plug Garbage here.

My question is this> Give that time is infinite And given that space is also infinite.........would you like a piece of toast lol? No seriously.........my big question would be......why the hell did you turn the Space Jockey into a stupid blue man and try to ruin what i thought would answer what the original Space Jocky was.....for me.....personally. Failing that......are there any Xenomorphs in it? Failing that one.......have any of my theories on this site been right lol?

Hello all I'm Dave. I have been into these films since I was very young. I actually saw Aliens first and never saw Alien till a few years later. I also recall looking at a friends Geiger art book which was amazing. I really can't wait till June.

@ canadaphil - good point, the invitation/warning is old. A possibility, but the temples are SJ in origin. @ Biehn_Bandit - the Epic, I agree, wheres the EPIC in all this!

I did not want to post me whole take just yet.. I was going to wait until just before the premiere, but I think the wow factor of this movie is most probably going to be that the freaky life cycles depicted in Gigers artwork are not just going to be the basis of simply a "look" that the art director decided to pick just for the heck of it back in 79, but those surreal depictions are actually going to come to life in this flick. Seriously, I think we have all been missing the clues.. Some of the freaky elements, new eels, whatever, are taken directly from Gigers art. I dont think anyone can deny that. AND.... hint, hint... Study Gigers print "Hieroglyphics" for a bit, and see if you have a lightbulb moment of sorts.

OHHHHHHHHH lol......i see now. Course i wont lol

religious fanatics and die hard materialistic scientists are both shitty.. afterlife..well, that is nothing new, I guess every culture has reports about out-of-body-experiences and more..

Ok, throw in mutated crew members too. Still not very epic or terrifying to a movie goer in 2012. Anyone want to challenge my theory about collective sub-conscious the artists being responsible for the dots? Am I over looking something that would make this impractical?

That is the big question.. but it could be that somewhere along the line, one species eclipsed the other. The invitation is from around 100,000 years in the past?? The ones who became the "overloards" were not really aware of us, until we unwittingly happened along.

@ freeze him - the time travel element came about for two reasons - 1) peoples misunderstanding of the theoretical effects of FTL space travel, and 2) the "it looks fossilized" comment by Dallas in Alien. FTL will not cause travel back in time, and as Ridley has stated and shown, what we saw in Alien was a decayed suit, not the skeletal remains of a long dead creature (hence Dallas' assumption it was fossilized). Also I think there's enough going on here, time travel would needlessly confuse the story even further. @ Sparky - Nah, not the goo. If you look at the "king" in the trailer look at the top/back of his head, whats going on there then. @Canadaphil - a possibility, could the UFO guy's and the SJ's been in an alliance, if so why send us to a world inhabited by the SJ's?

Beautiful post "Biehn_Bandit" man, we got this Snorky !!!

^^^^ Further to above, it you add to that the pick of the headless body and the gateway with the Temple Head in the background, this almost looks like some form of "LAST STAND" on these creatures parts. There appears to be a bashed in doorway in the pic of the headless jockey discovery. I think the pick of the pile of jockeys in the OP are part of this same sequence.. That that hallway or corridor is just to the left of the headless body scene.

Think of it this way. They keep saying this is going to be an epic. Having your cast of alien beings being a big blue guy and a couple of infectious organisms doesn't seem very epic or terrifying to me (in horror film terms). But throw in something that can cut Space Jockey heads off. Maybe many somethings. Why is there a hologram of a blue guy running? Is he running around causing havoc (like planting bombs or something), or is he running from something? If you were Ridley Scott, and you had access to whatever creature designers you want, 150 million dollars, and H R freaking Giger, would you settle for a bald blue guy and a worm going into some guys costume?

SNORKY WROTE-->[quote]So why would the UFO guys invite us to/warn us from a SJ planet.[/quote] BINGO MAN YOU NAILED IT!!! YOU B-SLAPPED IT... BECAUSE THE SAME FATE BEFELL THJEIR KING !!! ONE OF THOSE RACES WAS GOOD, THE HUMAN KING PREDECESSOR RACE, AND ONE IS PURE TERRFORMING EVIL...THE ENGINEERS/SPACE JOCKEYS/BLUE GUYS

LOL! Yes I dug it up, I have been reading all the old posts, so I don't accidentally re-post a topic that has already been covered. So many old posts.. LOL!

I think that a sizeable moon is required to create the tidal forces that keep the core of the planet liquid so that it can have a large magnetic field to shield the planet from the solar wind. Mars does not have a magnetic field so its atmosphere was blown away by the solar wind as its surface is blasted by high doses of radiation.

@ fanboy79 - Dead Jockey's pic added to OP @ odmanout - An umbilical cord attached to the "thing" and a suddenly inflated belly (leaked trailer) suggest pregnancy. The Vickers thing was mentioned (and has been discussed, a lot), its probably a ruse to lead us to suspect that she's the second android, thus I suspect she isn't. @ Sparky - When? Who'd I slap? and Warning/Invitation is what we trying to figure out, could prove important. @ prom_queen - might not be evil, but the trailer seems to suggest that at the very least they have ill intentions towards us, but why?

A simple statement of Einstein's relativity is that the laws of physics are the same everywhere in the universe. The chemistry of living organisms will be that same as they are here on earth so it makes sense that other planets will have similar life forms. The basic building blocks of life, as the exist on the earth, have been detected in interstellar gas clouds. As above so below. It is reasonable to think that the universe has a fractal structure.

Going slightly off-topic (but not much), I've been thinking a lot about the life-cycle of Giger's alien, and I agree with Carbon47 that it is highly illogical but extremely dramatic from a narrative point of view. The thing I find most bizarre is the original life cycle (as portrayed in Alien DC), with the ability of an adult to mutate its victims into eggs. In this way the species becomes non perpetuating: in order to breed a new individual you need 2 victims (a host and an egg). Therefore, assuming a population of 100 victims, the maximum amount of new individuals would be 50. Once there are no more victims the aliens could turn towards their own species to further breed, thus cutting in half the population again, and so on, until only 1 individual lives, and eventually dies of natural causes. This doesn't make sense for any natural species, but could be a very useful instrument if the creature is engineered for the purpose of exterminating another species without the risk of taking its place. In the end it can clean an environment and then die without the need of further disinfestation. Man, that's evil! If there is an egg layer instead it all makes more sense from a natural POW (even though the life cycle as a whole stays illogical).

Since I began responding to a few posts here (not quite a week ago) I have been speculating that there are in fact 2 very different races at odds here (not including us). I think there has been a hell of a lot of misdirection in the Trailers. I dont think Ridley is completely stupid in that he is going to give away the story in a two minute bite. I do believe that there is a MASTER race if you will and one which are like indentured servants or outright SLAVE's, but I just cant put my finger on what the SJ is yet. But it would seem incredibly lame if after 33 years the answer to that mystical dead thing in Alien being just BLUE GUY that looks like James Arness in 1951's THE THING. Sorry.. I just think that would just be a completely LAZY bit a writing on this productions part. I think Ridley is goint to try for a complete mind screw here. And then you have Giger making a comment along the lines of .... "There is going to be something new and it will be VERY GRAUSLICH!"... Ummm OK.. It must take something completely freaky for someone like Giger saying its going to be very horrible.

I found that common thread...Its The Goo !!!

::I have all/most of the pieces of the jigsaw, but its just a hairs breadth out of reach, I know if I can just find the common thread I can figure this out... Snorkelbottom, time travel has been a big topic of conversation in the threads. Could time be a thread you seek?

I just made a massive observation/connection The Brownish/Blackish Goo...is Present On the King That Dies ! Right at the start of the new Trailer he is exmaning his own hand and that's the exact same Goo That we see on Shaw and on board Prometheus. So the same fate that fell upon prometheus fell upon that King and his kingdom !!! A Ha... A Clue Sherlock...

Maybe the design team is going to show us how the Newborn should have looked, and what kind of genesis it should have underwent. A big thing from a small beginning

Are we convinced that the big blue dude (or dudette) is evil? I know we are led to believe that by the trailers, but I hate to jump to that conclusion just yet.

@BigDave, I have read both the Bible and the Quran and the books of many other religions and myths. The Bible is like a condensed history that contains wisdom that you can use to inform your life. There is nothing new under the sun and if you behave this way the result will likely be that. There was a one season show on HULU called "The Booth at the End" in which a man gave advice to people who asked for his help. My interpretation is that he had a great knowledge of cause and effect. For any person to get what they want they need to do what he suggests. Do this, get that. Cause and effect. The Latin word Religios means "what came before" or tradition.

Snorky...In just asking you hit/slapped that biaaaatch...a "warning"...why...they have some vested interest in Earth! Maybe they need some element they are running out of or some same ol same ol like that.

i think its good not to assume shaw gives birth or has something grown inside of her cut out. there could be numerous things going on there but i get the feeling that weyland and vickers are behind it. i do remember reading about charlize theron having an idea for her character that they used in the movie. i dont remember how it was worded because it was almost a year ago when i read it but, she described it like a plot twist for her character arch. as if there was a different motive for her character all along, and thats why ridley put her in the corner of scenes and made her look like she was "lurking". anyone else remember reading that? maybe this needs its own thread.

amazing [b]"Xenobservations"[/b]...wow, Think I just invented a new word !!!

@ biehn_bandit - I agree on the goo, its not important, but a sign of life. @ Sparky - My thoughts exactly. Well one things for certain, the temples are Space Jockey in origin. I just rewatched one of the new trailers and the same markings found on the temple walls are also found on a switch that opens a door - David in front of door with a red scanning orb hovering beside him. So why would the UFO guys invite us to/warn us from a SJ planet. and what of Ridley's comments in Empire magazine, about an intelligent race on Earth, before the fossil record.

wow, you dug this up, cool man...thanks! I love this thread.

That's the very Key to all of this thing XenoKiller3 IMO.