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Nope. Just watch Prometheus and Alien. The Praetomorph is an imitation 

I have a hankering to watch Alien: Covenant today, myself 😂 I find the more often I rewatch Prometheus and Covenant the more I appreciate them. People were so critical of these two films when they first came out but honestly, Scott did a great job with them. Prometheus will always have those subtle issues with the writing, Charlize Theron (my least favorite character) and the matching heart rates but it really was a decent film.Both Prometheus and Covenant have vastly more unsettling and scary "Alien" moments than anything that's come since. The Hammerpede attack, the Trilobite, the Deacon bursting scene in Prometheus. The Backburster scene in Covenant. And - Michael Fassbender as David - can't beat David and Fassbender's performance.

Agreed. My unpopular opinion would be that I prefer both Prometheus and Covenant over Romulus. Watched Prometheus and Covenant back to back the other night. Alien was last night. 

A focus on the human characters, more about the Engineers, no David, make sure that David isn't responsible for the monster or is the one in the chair. Keep Scott away from the writing and let him be involved with the art department. Don't cut character-development for run-time (Prometheus). Enough of the AI-thing

@Love Sci fi, just a friendly reminder that this is indeed Ninxenos topic as he obviously created it so please don't derail it or someone else's. You're questions are not unreasonable and it's fun to discuss all things Alien, that's why we're here right? But please feel free to create a new topic with your questions and we'll take the discussion there. Respectfully//N

Oh dear

That multieyed octopus is one creepy alien. When it pops out of that redheaded girl, hold on to your cookies.

I thought David created that horror.David never made them. He only imitated. There's too much evidence in Prometheus and Alien that debunks David as their creator.

What evidence? Didn't he say he created them?

I honestly have no idea what confuses you so much. I literally made this topic with an easy to follow timeline and why Earth is separate so far. Perhaps start a topic of your own about your confusion.

When I post that I am confused, it's not your topic or timeline, it's the movies. I had so many questions after seeing the follow up movies to the first Alien movie. They didn't connect the dots.  A lot of things weren't consistent. I read the book and was told on another forum that the book was written after the first movie which really added to my confusion.  I don't understand why the alien who crashed had to be from another planet. Why wasn't he just from there? How did the eggs get into his spaceship? Where was other life on that planet? Those things had to eat. So many questions that I wish someone, anyone who can write would just connect the dots.

I have a hankering to watch Alien: Covenant today, myself 😂 I find the more often I rewatch Prometheus and Covenant the more I appreciate them. People were so critical of these two films when they first came out but honestly, Scott did a great job with them. Prometheus will always have those subtle issues with the writing, Charlize Theron (my least favorite character) and the matching heart rates but it really was a decent film.Both Prometheus and Covenant have vastly more unsettling and scary "Alien" moments than anything that's come since. The Hammerpede attack, the Trilobite, the Deacon bursting scene in Prometheus. The Backburster scene in Covenant. And - Michael Fassbender as David - can't beat David and Fassbender's performance.

I watch them over and over again. I just won't watch the last Alien Earth episode because that goat scene was sickening. Enough with the animal torture scenes. The writer's must be sadists who can't write a normal science fiction episode. Fassbender is a good actor. I still don't get the obsession with Lawrence of Arabia. Not a fan of that film.

Great ,,, this is the one Im waiting for

It was probably that "artificial person" that did it and then locked himself in the mother room.

I have a hankering to watch Alien: Covenant today, myself 😂 I find the more often I rewatch Prometheus and Covenant the more I appreciate them. People were so critical of these two films when they first came out but honestly, Scott did a great job with them. Prometheus will always have those subtle issues with the writing, Charlize Theron (my least favorite character) and the matching heart rates but it really was a decent film.

Both Prometheus and Covenant have vastly more unsettling and scary "Alien" moments than anything that's come since. The Hammerpede attack, the Trilobite, the Deacon bursting scene in Prometheus. The Backburster scene in Covenant. And - Michael Fassbender as David - can't beat David and Fassbender's performance.

The only character I didn't like in the Alien movies was that uppity, self righteous, hypocrite doctor. She had blood on her hands because she wouldn't allow a security detail with the others.

You do realize she was overruled on that right? That has nothing to do with what happens to Fifield and Millburn or Holloway. Believe me I rewatched Prometheus last night 

I honestly have no idea what confuses you so much. I literally made this topic with an easy to follow timeline and why Earth is separate so far. Perhaps start a topic of your own about your confusion.

Yes, follow up on Covenant so we could finally (hopefully) get some well deserved closure. Leaving Daniels and Tennessee in the freezer for evil David to plan his experimental cooking is just foul lol. Have David cornered by a pissed off mob of surviving colonists armed with colonial farming tools, and let them go full medieval on his milky android ass. Shred him to bits and blow him out the airlock through his favorite flute to the tune of Einzug der Götter in Walhall by Das Rheingold Prodigy Remix.

*Credits roll*

That's quality writing right there. Anyway I can't stand David but that's a testament to how well Michael Fassbender portrays the vile mastermind. It would also be a perfect opportunity to flesh out his motives beyond passionately creating, philosophing and destroying. Wickedness aside he's an interesting multifaceted character not entirely unlike Tony Soprano or Patrick Bateman and surely he must've evolved a lot during the journey towards Origae-6, his own giant canvas for sure.

Realistically though I don't think a sequel will happen. Will Michael, Katherine Waterston and Danny McBride be interested at this point, 8 years after the release of Covenant? Maybe, hopefully. Who knows but fingers crossed that it'll happen and more importantly that it will at least be above average. 

it would it is a perfect time to get Sir Ridley third prequel and now he can free the xenomorph and just focus on the the engineers world. And I really want David making a comeback.

Me too! I think having the series and the Romulus sequel on the way, the Xenomorph will be well taken care of so it really would free up space for Scott to lean into the Engineer backstory more. It could be a perfect match and would satisfy both sides of the fandom, cause many of us are getting desensitized to the same old predictable Xenomorph chaos.

Great ,,, this is the one Im waiting for 

it would it is a perfect time to get Sir Ridley third prequel and now he can free the xenomorph and just focus on the the engineers world. And I really want David making a comeback. 

Why are the scenes so dark in these movies and tv shows? I couldn't make out what was in that rock that went aboard a ship in Romulus. It was so dark. Why don't they lighten up scenes like that?

The only character I didn't like in the Alien movies was that uppity, self righteous, hypocrite doctor. She had blood on her hands because she wouldn't allow a security detail with the others.

Instead of using old lines from old movies, which are supposed to be in the future, why don't they just answer questions from the first Alien movie and connect it all.

I'll never forget seeing this in theatres for the first time - I got chills. Loved the execution of this scene, the design of the Deacon. Everything about it.

It makes me sad that they let the orange cat die. Jonesy was a survivor and his throwback should have survived too. It's bad enough that they 'killed' a cat in the first place but if they 'had' to do it then they should have put two cats on the Maginot and had the other non-orange cat be the victi.    

Can’t wait for part 2 of this awesome film

It was a tag team match 

Casually drops magnificent fan artwork – bless you, Nebula 🙏

But yeah, I think he would do Alien justice, especially if it was focused on prequel lore / Engineer storylines. One can only hope that one day it becomes a possibility!

Wonderful new to hear and thank you to Mexico for making this happen so that they can continue to shoot Godzilla x Kong Supernova 

I love Blade runner 2049, Dune part 1 and 2, and can't wait for Messiah. I'd love to see his take on the Alien, especially the Engineer lore.

Above is Alien fan art by Emmanuel Shiu.

Cute lil guy eh...

I definitely preferred this design over the goofy looking one in Romulus 

I'll add Aliens Dark Descent to the psychic link to the xenomorphs. I thought about doing a topic on it but here's a good place. In that game, Sargent Jonas Harper and his daughter Cassandra have telepathic abilities. A cult kidnaps Cassandra and attempts to use her to communicate with the xenomorph. That's the broad strokes basically. I believe the novel Alien Covenant Origins had a weird psychic link which was how xenomorph were featured. Some old Dark Horse comics I believe as well did this. Like I said an "anything you can do i can do better" mind set with this writing.

interesting episode 4 but overall it's my least favourite. I love the sheep/goat scene most which is really creepy. The pace is little dragged and disconnected from other scenes. Maybe I have to rewatch it. 

Excited about Ep 5 though where we will get what really happened on the ship. 

I was wondering about that brief scene with Boy and Atom, while they are observing the eye creature attack the sheep. Boy slams the ball he always plays with into the glass, and Atom grabs it with the speed and agility of an Android. I wonder if this is a misdirect, or if Atom is secretly another one of Boy's Androids (like Kirsh). It would track that Boy Kavalier would not only surround himself with rnYes-Men, but would go so far as to create those Yes-Men himself.

Ooooo wait you’re so right, I totally did not make that connection!! It reminds me of when Ash first woke up from cryo sleep, and they hint at him being an android while he’s doing his stretches… 

And if you’re right, then his coldness to Hermit about Wendy not being human would make a lot of sense (while watching that I was like dang dude you’re an stone cold ice queen)

Maybe he has surrounded himself with synthetics as attempts to create someone as intellectually superior as himself, but they all failed to reach his level thus why he created the hybrids?

@Fishy Friend those are good points, I totally forgot about the similar scenes Resurrection. That film was more coherent and better overall though imo despite being very silly at times.

lmao “Very silly” is such an accurate description for that movie <333 (love it to death though AHAHHA)

I also totally agree it was definitely more coherent and straight forward!! But on the other hand, TV shows gotta keep up the mystery so you stay interested, so maybe they’re being intentionally stingy with their reasonings for now… Hopefully it all starts to come together and makes sense soon. I guess that’s the drawback of weekly episodes, it interrupts the flow and it’s easier to forget and/or miss things!!

Well said, I do agree with you. As much as the perfectionist in me wishes it could all connect like a perfect puzzle piece – I realize it never will. Too many hands in the cookie jar. You bring up good points as well. I was hopeful the series would have tied into or expanded on the prequel lore and the expansion Ridley Scott set out to do with Prometheus. I'll fight for that expansion till my last breath 😂As much as I personally want the series to make sense and fit into film canonical timelines, I too am thankful it exists in its own lane now. I just don't understand why writers, directors and producers wouldn't WANT to keep everything tightly knit and connected into one cohesive thing. I guess to each their own.Also, your OP had weird formatting and one typo, so I did my best to fix the formatting and fixed the Alien: Earth release year to 2120 from 2020. 🙂 Great topic, though!As for why they wouldn't want things connected, I think it's this arrogant thinking of "anything you can do i can do better". Minor spoiler for tonight's episode of Alien Earth: There's a tense confrontation between Dame Sylvia and Nibs and Sylvia attempts to diffuse the situation by offering tea. Watching the scene i was like "hmm where have I seen this before?" Prometheus naturally. Hawley wants to draw things from it but not tie into it. Arthur and Dame can't conceive children? Sounds like Shaw and Holloway. He picked what he liked and ignores the rest. Also reminds me of the thinking that went into the Star Wars sequels where the lead up to Episode VII was all about downplaying the prequels. It was pretty clear JJ Abrams didn't care for them therefore didn't want to acknowledge them. Same with Rian Johnson. It does make me appreciate that Fedè Alvarez embraced all aspects of the franchise with Romulus. Plenty of call backs to virtually every movie and forging an intimate connection to prequel lore. Even if it came off of as memberberry overload.

Why wasn't the redheaded girl examined after that multi eyed octopus attacked her? I think that thing put something inside her and that is why she is so hostile now. She was a scared rabbit before.

As of tonight it is confirmed- yes... yes she can.

How can this be? She was created before the xenomorph arrived on Earth. The redheaded girl might have gotten stuck with something from that multi eyed octopus. That scene with the goat was disgusting.

I was wondering about that brief scene with Boy and Atom, while they are observing the eye creature attack the sheep. Boy slams the ball he always plays with into the glass, and Atom grabs it with the speed and agility of an Android. I wonder if this is a misdirect, or if Atom is secretly another one of Boy's Androids (like Kirsh). It would track that Boy Kavalier would not only surround himself with rnYes-Men, but would go so far as to create those Yes-Men himself.

This would make sense actually. With a name like Atom too, makes me wonder as well. His demeanour matches that of a Synthetic, much like David’s butler vibes in the prequels during his service to Weyland. I bet we see Atom and Kirsh knock heads soon, as you can see Kirsh disdain growing for Boy 😂 He’s so sick of his shit lol

True I guess we do get instances where Xenomorphs “speak” in previous films, namely Resurrection. David and the Neomorph was something of a pre-communication event but you could tell he was on his way – which is why David reacted so “emotionally” to the Neomorph being killed.

I assumed Kirsh had simply relayed Weyland-Yutani’s records and their reference of the creature as a Xenomorph, but again – lazy writing, this could have easily been referenced in a quick 3 second frame when he was scanning the records on the Maginot.

I’m giving this show benefit of the doubt and enjoying the ride for what it’s worth but the writing is pretty bad. Again, maybe it’s how my brain works but I like things to be organized and to assume the audiences will just assume they know what a Xenomorph is, is lazy writing.

@Fishy Friend those are good points, I totally forgot about the similar scenes Resurrection. That film was more coherent and better overall though imo despite being very silly at times.

I was wondering about that brief scene with Boy and Atom, while they are observing the eye creature attack the sheep. Boy slams the ball he always plays with into the glass, and Atom grabs it with the speed and agility of an Android. I wonder if this is a misdirect, or if Atom is secretly another one of Boy's Androids (like Kirsh). It would track that Boy Kavalier would not only surround himself with Yes-Men, but would go so far as to create those Yes-Men himself.

In the opening moments of episode 4 while Kirsh, Dame and her husband are examining Wendy Kirsh calls the organism a xenomorph.  Right after that Boy walks in and he also calls it a xenomorph. I can't recall seeing a prior reference by Prodigy personnel so maybe they've reviewed the Weyland - Yutani files off screen. 

Nibs seems to be having a psychotic break. Dame referees to this as a level 3 event, so they either have some prior experience with this or they already had a protocol for someone not adapting to the hybrid "upgrade".  Nibs was touched on the face by the eyeball monster's tentacles in episode 2 but managed to push it off.  Did the creature possibly implant something that could take over a synthetic just like it did the sheep? 

Wendy's brother raised a great point - shouldn't the other kids families be there. Shouldn't there have been parties instead of funerals?  These kids are just property now - "human" lab rats if you will. 

Not sure what Kirsh is up to. He knows about Morrow and Slightly's plan to face hug some but I don't know what he's going to do about it. 

And lastly Wendy and her pet chest burster is just a bit much. I truly hope they are not planning a Jurassic World raptor whisperer type role for her.

 Maybe we will find out

they will be riding around on xenomorphs by the end of this season.