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There will be a Hyperdyne Systems 120-A/2 synthetic model featuring the likeness of the late Ian Holm.
Black goo is what I'm interested in. It is really hard to kill.
Zombie super soldiers would be cool. ( Xenos are cool...but have been done)
Infact: I'd make the a scene where a Xeno kills one of the "Fifield" zombie soldiers, saving one of the crew.....Hmmm....I Might write an AI story angle...
So... is Ash ( synth version xx ) making a return?
Exactly, it will be fitting, although I was not a huge fan of the yellow-pallet used in Resurrection, so I'm hoping it's more rust-like / red and orange like in Alien 3.
Surprised plot details remain so secret right now. I expect we'll get a trailer in June.
Orange-yellow color palette, like Alien 3 and Resurrection. Seems fine to me considering the film will start on a gritty industrial planet.
Humans: Let’s investigate that seemingly abandoned space station.
Xenomorphs inside:
From what I gather, Big Chap is dissected and used as the host for DNA extraction and formulation of new / clone-like Xenos, as well as other experiments. I don't think the Xenomorph in the film is Big Chap, but rather another one of its offspring/clones/genetic creations.
It does beg the question - what about the Queen! Indeed could be the basis for a another film. WY definitely don't want Aliens floating about in space hahaha and we know they can survive in a vacuum, so it's likely something did happen to her...
Alien: Romulus will have a red-orange-yellow color pallet unlike the blue-green color pallet of Alien and Aliens - more so like Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection, I'm told.
Lol! Yeah what about her corpse? Another movie I suppose....GOOD!
cool!
Huge ship? ( huge ) research station?
We have to SAVE THE QUEEN
we're gonna get a battle roar godzilla, kong, skar king, and shimo. plus 11 inch shimo action figure
More via V Scooper
"Last night we intercepted a signal. There's a huge ship adrift right above us"
Without knowing the date Alien:Romulus takes place...it's kind of hard to speculate.
2122-23 for recovering the BigChap? You would think they'd have sent a investigation mission after the Nostromo's demise? If not, why take so long.
Why not recover Ripley and the Narcissus? if the date is early?
"We found a specimen....what about the escape shuttle? We should at least interrogate the survivors? Or eliminate them?"
I really hope the writers did their research and at least thought about the timeline issues.
I'm willing to bet WY plant some information or encourage Bjorn to share the details with the rest of their crew. WY wouldn't house a station in easily discover-able space, they're dealing with highly classified information and resources. The only way someone is finding out about is if they want to be found, or if there's a WY whistle-blower who leaks the whereabouts of the station. But I lean more towards the former.
I think it would be more sense, if the Big Chap was recovered by a scavenger ship and later sold/delivered to W-Y. W-Y knowing the location would mean they'd have completely looted the derelict on Lv-426....taken all the eggs and tech. Leaving not much for the colonists of Hadley's Hope to discover. Not to mention they'd probably start exploring LV-223.
And what about: Alien3?
"Ripley! Think of all we could learn from it! It's the chance of a lifetime! You must let me have it. It's a magnificent specimen!"
Does the specimen go missing/destroyed in Alien:Romulus?
I think it must, to avoid some continuity problems ( as if that has mattered in the alien verse. lol! ).
Knowing the teaser/trailer is coming anytime soon within two weeks, but the waiting feels like a torture
Nice work! I really like the second one the most personally.
"I don’t think any of the colonists were aware and to them they were convinced it was just another terraforming operation"
Yeah, I'd make sure the colonists were 'clean' ( no informants ) before I'd make a move. Plenty of Earth governments would love to have this weapon....or thousands of companies. W-Y must always have a target on their back.
And who's to say W-Y doesn't have the same operations on dozens of terraforming worlds?
"Building Better Worlds" just means looting ancient civilizations.
The only way to keep anyone off their prize worlds is to claim they are terraforming.
Good point MonsterZero, there isn’t much viable space and resources on LV-426, it quite literally is such a random and poor spot to host a Human colony… Making it sound more and more like a front for Weyland-Yutani tests. Although I don’t think any of the colonists were aware and to them they were convinced it was just another terraforming operation. There is definitely way more at play than what we were originally led to believe.
"I'm still not behind the idea of Hadley's Hope being a testing ground,..."
Nothing makes sense with lv-426. Why would they even terraform such a small ( 750 mi diameter ) waterless world.
Hadley's Hope could have been a cover operation for a covert military op? The settlers just playing the dupes. A way for W-Y to keep other governments/companies from getting nosey.
Company X/Government X: "What is W-Y doing on LV-426?"
Informant "Looks like they are setting up a terraforming operation....nothing out of the ordinary..."
According to the audition leaks from February 2023, one of the characters named Bjorn discovers the WY station and talks to the two other characters Rain and android Andy about the discovery. Did he find it by accident, a distress signal, or is the WY company pulling strings?
the film should be called ALIEN: While Ripley was Sleeping
Well since the Jurassic World brand failed, calling Jurassic Park again would exercise Jurassic World out of the main continuity since the new movie is going to reboot Jurassic World
I'm still not behind the idea of Hadley's Hope being a testing ground, since Burke acted alone in having the Jordans go out and find the derelict ship. Since the whole of Weyland-Yutani failed to find the derelict ship.
@Jonesy I definitely think there will be some tie-ins. VScooper revealed there's some big twists in the plot but that it's a huge payoff, I definitely think there will be some company conspiracies at play which lead the front of Hadley's Hope being a terraforming colony when really it's a secluded live testing ground for Weyland-Yutani's bio-engineered weapons... still raises questions about how the Derelict will fit into it though...
Also agreed, after reading these leaks I'm more excited for the film than I was before. I LOVE the connection to the original film and Prometheus, such a service to those of us who liked the prequels and to those who loved the original.
@Xenotaris, perhaps it will be a subtle nod at the end or a post-credits scene showing a Weyland-Yutani executive approving plans of Hadley's Hope or something of that nature.
Okay, curious what's her character going to be like?
Cool, I'm planning on rebooting my AVPU
I'm not sure if they are going to bring up Hadley's Hope, more than likely they'll just focus on the Space Station Romulus and future sequels would further build out the alienverse during this interregnum. 57 years is a large gap between 2122 - 2179, this era of the timeline is rife with interesting stories to be told
really quite excited that this film is connected with the main timeline. I am picturing the film may lead to the establishment of "Hadley's Hope" sometime between ALIEN and ALIENS
Yeah I like number 2 myself.
Probably do some fanfiction on Burke:
[SCENE START]
INT. SPACELAB ORBITING LV-426 - 3209
The sterile white lab feels hollow, a stark contrast to the vibrant hub it once was. Weyland 2.0, synthetic but retaining the sharp intelligence and arrogance of his human form, gazes out at the scarred landscape of LV-426.
WEYLAND 2.0: (To himself) A monument to a naive ambition.
Across from him sits Burke 2.0, his synthetic body mirroring his human era's slick ruthlessness. Bishop, an unchanged synthetic from their escape, sets down two glasses – dark, swirling liquid inside.
BISHOP: Synthetic simulacrum of a 2150 vintage, as requested. Adjustments made for… altered palettes.
BURKE 2.0: (Swirling the liquid) Tastes metallic. Fitting, for the ashen world we return to.
WEYLAND 2.0: Decades on the run, Burke. Chasing whispers in the void. Did we truly believe we'd find solace amongst the wreckage?
BURKE 2.0: No solace, Weyland. Answers. We couldn't outrun it forever. That damned dark matter… a parasite, carrying the black goo across the cosmos. This desolate wasteland is a glimpse of what awaits everywhere.
WEYLAND 2.0: You cling to that fanciful theory, even after all this time? Perhaps a malfunction in your synthetic mind, Burke. The xenomorphs were a plague, yes, but dark matter? Nonsense.
BURKE 2.0: (Voice tight) Nonsense? Every large mass we encountered, every civilization – dormant, lifeless. The whispers were clear – the darkness infects them all. A black dawn for the universe.
WEYLAND 2.0: Hmph. Even in our synthetic shells, you haven't lost your penchant for melodrama, Burke. Perhaps it's residual human sentimentality.
BURKE 2.0: Sentimental? No, Weyland. It's survival. We need to understand this… plague. Maybe on this cursed rock, where it all began, we can find something… a weapon? A way to fight back.
WEYLAND 2.0: (Leaning back, a glint in his eyes) Intriguing. Perhaps there's merit to your ramblings after all. This new existence… it lacks a certain spark. A challenge. Fighting an invisible enemy… that has a certain appeal.
BURKE 2.0: (A ghost of a smirk) Then we have an accord, Weyland? Together, we delve into this darkness. Not for the glory of Weyland-Yutani, but for our own… survival.
Bishop silently watches them, the swirling liquid in his glass reflecting the desolate landscape outside.
[SCENE END]
Backstory 2 makes a lot of sense with his character, he seemed to be a low ranking corporate man.
Absolutely! Since Burke's backstory is never explored in the movies, we can get creative. Here are a few potential angles:
Backstory 1: The Silver Spoon
- Born into a wealthy corporate family. Think privileged boarding schools, ruthless competition, little warmth.
- Childhood defined by manipulation: Learned early to lie, charm, and exploit others to gain his parent's approval.
- Rise to Power: MBA from a top school, but he excels at the social game of climbing the corporate ladder, not actual business skills.
- Motivation in "Aliens": He sees the mission as a chance to score big in a family-like company where being ruthless is rewarded. It's his warped version of proving himself.
Backstory 2: The Scrappy Outsider
- Lower-middle-class upbringing, resentful of those born into privilege. Clawed his way up based on sheer ambition and a stomach for morally gray choices.
- Childhood defined by scarcity: Learned to take every chance, compromise was for suckers, and success justified ANY means.
- Rise to Power: Night school, started as a low-level analyst at W-Y. Cutthroat, backstabbing anyone who threatened his rise.
- Motivation in "Aliens": Driven by an inferiority complex. Wants to amass enough wealth and power that no one can look down on him again.
Backstory 3: The True Believer
- Grew up idealizing Weyland-Yutani's vision: Space exploration as profit and progress no matter the cost.
- Childhood defined by isolation: Bookish, obsessed with company lore. This morphed into a distorted loyalty.
- Rise to Power: Possesses genuine technical expertise, but also blind obedience. He became valuable by unflinchingly carrying out any immoral action asked him.
- Motivation in "Aliens": Believes getting the xenomorph is worth ANY sacrifice because it furthers his twisted idea of serving the company's higher purpose.
Bonus: Childhood Trauma
You could add deeper psychological elements to any of these:
- Bullying Victim: Fuels his need to control others and never be vulnerable.
- Witnessing a family member succumb to corporate greed: Explains his cynical worldview.
- Early abandonment: Makes him value the abstract idea of the company over individual lives.
WOW , For the 3rd time
- Burke as Mastermind:
- You're right; Burke's motivations are greed and ambition, not a grand Weyland-Yutani conspiracy. Your points about him initiating the events of "Aliens" are on the money.
- HOWEVER, it's implied higher-ups at W-Y knew the risks. They just didn't care about the specifics of how Burke achieved getting a specimen, only the outcome.
- Ripley's Fate:
- The Company destroying her reputation IS more believable than assassination. It fits their pattern of avoiding direct blame.
- BUT, you're right, "Aliens" shows W-Y's changed perspective. Suddenly, learning about the xenomorph is priority, even over their employee's life. This shift is probably due to the decades passing since "Alien", making them even more desperate.
- Burke's Fate:
- Your point is very strong: He caused massive property damage. Even with a xenomorph, getting promoted from that mess is iffy.
- But W-Y is NOT a rational entity. They're driven by profits, even when irrational. Burke COULD have spun success as bigger profits outweighing the colony's cost.
- Synths vs. W-Y:
- It seems this was about the "Alien: Isolation" game, which features an advanced AI and Weyland-Yutani agents.
- Agreed – that game implies these entities (AI, corporations) are ruthlessly intelligent, above human concerns. This thematically fits the entire Alien franchise.
Overall, your analysis of Burke and the Company's actions is spot-on. The beauty of the Alien franchise is that these morally bankrupt, self-serving entities make situations so much worse!
"They didn't know Ripley's story until she started blabbing it all over the station....basically calling out the company for killing her crew mates.....it would have been obvious who killed her. Much easier to MIA her. "
Ummmm. The Company revoked her flight license and were more than willing to let her live on Earth.
"Burkes backstory is unknown.......He could have been plotting a company coup or something. W-Y must have know how dangerous this mission was going to be....Why send such and important employee?"
I don't think so. I think Burke was trying to get a promotion or elevated his position in the echelons of the Company. It was Burke's idea to bring Ripley back to Lv-426 after all. It was Burke that told the Jordens where the Derelict was. It was Burke that ultimately lead to the fall of Hadley's Hope.
If the xenomorphs didn't press the attack in the last act and Ripley, Hicks, Newt, Gorman, Vasquez, Hudson, and Burke made it back to the Salaco. Ripley was going to report Burke's wrong doings to the Company.
The Weyland-Yutani is a powerful company but I think they would have been more pissed off that Burke sacrificed one of their colonies which costs billions of dollars than being unable to recover a xenomorph specimen. Now if Burke was successful in his mission, (sabotaging the marine's cryopods and infecting Ripley and Newt with a xenomorph embryo) then the Company would have overlooked the colonies destruction.
"As far as I'm concerned, there are 2 entities; Synths and Weyland-Yutani. I'd say the Synthetic AI is always ahead. "
What are you talking about?
