This is very interesting, I may restart my own speculative evolution project later.

They could look at that as a Possibility....

The Reality of it all comes from the Following.

*The Emphasis on the Engineers is that they are a Ancient Race of Creators (Genetic Space Gardeners) and their Interactions with Mankind are what leads to our Ancient Cultures and Mythos (Ancient Astronaut Theory).

*They decided Further tone down the HR Giger Aesthetic and having a City that looks more like Ancient Rome etc would FIT with the Ancient Astronaut Plot.

*Making the Sequel to Prometheus become something that will EVENTUALLY lead to ALIEN and be about the ORIGINS of the Xenomorph had meant that the Engineers World would have to be CLOSER to Earth for Plot Convenience.

A BIG PROBLEM when making a Sequel was always can you have a Movie about just Dr Shaw as the ONLY Human?   The Answer is likely NO! and so that means you have to have Humans from Earth come into Play!  

Just REALLY a Case of the Writers etc being Limited in their Ideas... because i say WHO is to say that Engineers only had Humans on Earth?

However regarding the Engineers it is UNLIKELY that they ONLY have Planet 4 as a kind of Base..... Planet 4 is likely a Colony that the Engineers use as Genetic Stock for Seeding Worlds.

Another Miss-Conception when looking a Paradise especially Biblical is that Paradise is NOT where the GODS or their Angels come from.  It is the Location of the Garden of Eden (Walled City) and thus where WE had came from.  And so if we came from THEM... then this Place is also where our Origins had come from.  When looking at the Sacrificial Scene in Prometheus... this could Actually had taken place on Planet 4.

"what happened to David and the 2000 colonists aboard the Covenant Ship? They can make a puzzling timeline"

I think it depends on WHEN the TV Series is SET, it was Indicated it would be SET on Earth and in the Near Future and to me this means before ALIEN in the Year 2122 and when they say the Not Too Distant Future to me that seems more like 25-50 Years.

I was Very Concerned with that Detail (if it is as such) because it would CONFLICT with the Franchise and Prequels.  Even as far as World Building, i dont think we would be TOO ADVANCED as far as Near the Technology we see in Alien Covenant in say the Year 2050, i would ASSUME that Weyland Industries would begin World Building and Mining mainly around say 2070 Mark (i just cant see before say 2050 that Humans would be Traveling like 10+ Light Years away).

so the Closer to Present Time Line (2021) then the likely-hood that the Adventure/Exploration and Discovery of a Xenomorph Threat would be CLOSER to Home than LV-426.... it even seems the THREAT would actually come down to seeing Xenomorphs get LOOSE on Earth.

And so it would NOT go and Connect to the Prequels if its SET before them, UNLESS we do introduce TIME-TRAVEL but i dont think that would be a Good Idea as well it can lead to MESS as Disney can then have a LAZY PLOT DEVICE to give us Constant Changes.

This is UNLESS the TV Series is Based on a Series of Time-Jumps...

EP1-2 Set in say 2025, EP 3-4 Set in say 2050, then EP5+ Jumps us to say 2125 but then having Xenomorphs known and on Earth before 2179 would Contradict the Movie ALIENS...

So for me any TV Show that will touch on the Xenomorph and on Earth before 2180 does not make SENSE and could be a RISK.

"May 14th, 2039 - Discovery of the planet Acheron LV-426 (Peter Weyland has 48 years old)"

Indeed however, i think with Alien Covenant they had Retconned some the History of Weyland Industries hence WHY that site was taken down.  But the ALIEN Franchise has more to it than Xenomorphs.... and so with Guy Pearce being 53 he could Play in Cameo a Peter Weyland aged between say 48-58 and so Indeed be SET say between 2040-2050, it depends on HOW MUCH the Series will be about the Xenomorph it seems the IDEA is the Xenomorph will return at a LATTER POINT and then WHEN does it appear in the Time-Line.

I think the Juggernaut is what it appears to be - a cargo ship. There is no reason to suppose there aren't Engineer warships, they just weren't present on LV-223 because humanity was so primitive 2000 years ago they weren't needed for whatever it was they were going to do with Earth, and the base has been nonfuctional since then. 

My guess about the Engineers and the humanoids they create is that since the Engineers are heavily into bio-engineering, they create species of guinea pigs who are similar enough to them that they can substitute for Engineers in experiments, but are reduced enough in intelligence relative to Engineers that they don't have the ability to catch up and become a potential threat. 

Personally, I find it very unlikely that the city is the Engineer capital. The probability that one cargo ship with no proper identification and a skeleton crew would be able to penetrate to the main docking station and dump the black goo without any action being taken to stop them is pretty low. Also, the city seems much too small and unsophisticated to be the capital of a grand interstellar civilization. 

My guess is that David had already conceived the idea of his experiments before he set course and deliberately chose the most backward, unimportant place in the greater Engineer area, someplace he could go to and dump the black goo with the lowest probability that the Engineers would notice and care enough to stop him. He then lied to Shaw and said he was taking them to the Engineer homeworld. 

I see where James is coming from but it would suck to end an entire fan base. I don’t know how they could pick up the story after dominion.

I understand why they have to I just think it’s a pretty bad ending.

I would love to see this ART in a live action show.

 The beautiful mural of Prometheus

Engineers, Xenomorphs and Facehuggers Orgy

The Deacon

The Neomorph

One of my favorite movie.

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Wow, very nice assessment. 

BigDave

I feel that if you remove any xenomorph DNA (since it would be blended perfectly with her human DNA) Ripley would be reduced to a puddle of goo.

Also, the xenomorph homeworld in the dark Horse comics, the xenomorphs were at the bottom of the food chain. The expanded universe also added a slowly development of technologies in handling the xenomorphs.

Yall need to read the comics, there is alot of interesting ideas floating around in there.

Also the xenomorph is the flagship creature of the franchise, it would be like replacing the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park with genetically engineered teenage shark men fighting crime in the streets. 

Especially with the success of shin Godzilla and singular point with both appealing to the general public, it seems plausible

Jack CapelliniThis is true for America, I can see a cinematic universe about Godzilla doing better in japan

I think, besides the important return of the Xenomorph to a screen, they could respond to some questions of the prequel Alien Covenant, like, for instance, what happened to David and the 2000 colonists aboard the Covenant Ship? They can make a puzzling timeline, with flasbacks and...flashforwards. That would be great. If they want to make a traditional timeline, why not make time travel possible with engineer technology, but a time travel limited to a few decades or so. That would be insane. 

My story would be simple. The engineers kill David and all his colonist horror experiments, the company retrieves all the eggs left by David on Planet 4 and brings them back to earth (maybe we can watch again on screen the neomorphs). They start doing experiments on the eggs and something goes horribly wrong (they unleash the Xenomorphs, firstly in an Alien Resurrection style and then in the outside world). The company stablishes contact with the engineers and they make the company aware of the existence of a lost eggs cargo on LV-426 planet (and this is the connection to the ALIEN 1979 film). Yes, Engineers have in the past already created Xenomorphs, that are not creations from the get-go, because the black goo is the result of a process of re-engineered micro-organisms existent on innumerous planets visited by the gardeners of the Universe (it's like  improve or change something that already exists). The  company has a second shot to harness the BEAST.

Weyland-Yutani: Corporate Timeline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLeF6EqulUI

May 14th, 2039 - Discovery of the planet Acheron LV-426 (Peter Weyland has 48 years old).

This is great news!

I'm now actually looking forward to this. Hope the music is good.

"..he thinks the Space Jockey was a Race who Happened to Collect the Eggs from the Xenomorphs Home-world."

I can see this. Space Jockey Race delivers food ( humanoids ) to the Xenomorph's homeworld. The brood soon produces a queen. SJ's claim the queen for payment.             Who knows what the SJ's need so many eggs or queens for?

It'd be a cool scene watching millions of humanoids released on planet Xeno!

Now...How long to produce a queen? How many victims does it take?

I pretty much enjoy anything with the Alien name slapped onto it so I'm sure I will love the TV series. Besides any Alien movie (good or bad) is better than no Alien movie.

"PRIOR to 2180's would DEFEAT the PURPOSE of RIPLEY'S STORY"

Absolutely.... i think with this Topic it was not Merely to talk about say the TV Series thats coming in 2023, but its to look at HOW would we FEEL if say DISNEY would Decide to REBOOT the Franchise for a Modern Audience.

"Post-Resurrection would be more or less ALIEN vs FIREFLY"

I think that looking before the Prequels... i think that a Sequel to Alien Resurrection could have been Possible and ALLOW for us to TRY something NEW as AR had showed some Potential... rather than just Vanilla Xenomorphs and Hives.  The Plot would seem to Indicate that surely there was NO-WHERE else to get a Xenomorph from.

I had 3 Ideas of were you could have GONE after AR, and so a ALIEN V and the One Idea would have covered the Failed Queen 7 and some Ripley 8 DNA being sent to a Research Outpost near Saturn.... introduce a New Xenomorph (well Two) that Procreate Differently.... this NEVER had to have Ripley in it.

The Second Idea was on Earth where they (Autons) USE the DNA of Ripley as she Dies to then Spawn a a Horror among other things.  Again NO Ripley required.

The 3rd was Similar to the 2nd but it would have Ripley 8 in it.  (there was TWO Alternative Versions of this IDEA which depended on HOW i would address the AGE of Miss Weaver).........

a) She Rapidly Changing to Less Human.

b) They Extract/Remove Xeno-DNA but she Rapidly Ages (shes Dying)

But i think a LOT of Fans prefer the Franchise to be about the Xenomorphs...they may see it as a "if it ant broke, dont fix it" but i agree with RS and there is ONLY so much Chest Bursting and Snarling you can do.

"build off of Cameron's vision"

Well he did have a Vision of HOW he would have done a ALIENS Sequel.

The Xenomorph Home-World...................and so it may looked like this that i knocked up.

Or maybe it would NOT have the Egg Silo.... because it seemed that James Cameron had Envisioned that the Xenomorph was a Ancient Species of its OWN and so it would seem that he thinks the Space Jockey was a Race who Happened to Collect the Eggs from the Xenomorphs Home-world.

The Problem with the Xenomorph as such would be the QUESTION.... so HOW LONG do they LIVE for?

Because Eventually they will DIE-OUT and so the Home-world would become Abandoned.... as they would NEED a Host.... but then anyone who Stumbles on a World that is Infested with Eggs would soon come to Release this WORLD is NOT yet TRULY DEAD (Void of Life)

However like i said.... I am sure Ridley Scott would want to PROTECT his Prequels and ALIEN.

Maybe the SHOW goes on to Begin in the NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE.... they had said it would Deal with Future Threat in A.I but then also a Ancient Threat would arise.

We will NOT be thrown into the Deep End with Xenomorphs it seems they will Gradually come into Play, and so we are on a Slower Build Up.... and so... MAYBE we have some Back Ground a Few Episodes that are SET in the NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE... then we Flash Forwards to a more Future Time?

And with Ridley Scott as Producer and likely would NOT want this to Conflict his Prequels then is the Scheduled 2023 Release Date a Coincidence?

Maybe we will get the TED TALK 2023 as the Opening Prologue?

Then we arrive at 20 or 25 Years Latter?

Guy Pearce in the ALIEN Time Line would be able to Play a Peter Weyland with no trying to make him LOOK any Younger or Older... and so he could Play Mr Weyland say like 2040-2050, this would be the Great Dawn of World Building and A.I within the Context to the Franchise.

Guy Pearce would likely NOT have a Busy Schedule, and he would NOT cost a KINGS RANSOM... and so he could make Various Cameo Appearances.

A Fassbender would be a Different Story but you could use UNUSED Footage, or Create a Look-a-like Doll so you Show a David being worked on.... but then we are taken to other Androids...

As well what are the Chances the David Technology only comes in David Likeness?

Thats NOT to say that any of this will Happen though....just with RS being Involved i would NOT go and RULE it out.

Well we know that Ridley Scott is VERY PROUD of his Prequels (seems he was NOT that Pleased with Alien Covenant as far as the Xenomorph) as just Prior to its Release he was like "they want Aliens, ill give them F£*£$ Aliens" but then after the Disappointment of Alien Covenant he had said that he FELT he was ahead of the Game with Prometheus.

This tells me he was Proud of the A.I Elements and Creation Elements, and it seemed he saw those and the Engineers and other things as more IMPORTANT than the Beast (Xenomorph) if you would.... but he had said about the Xenomorph that the Franchise was about HIM but you have to Evolve HIM and offer Different ways to Procreate.

The TV Series will likely touch upon other Aspects of ALIEN but it will Eventually come down to the Xenomorph, and so with Ridley Scott being VERY Involved you would have to think he would WANT to Protect some of the Ideas he had.

And so we have to WONDER if the TV Show would in NO-WAY go and Contradict his Prequels.....

We did here Noah say about the TV Show is based in the NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE!

That was always a Puzzle.... and Concern..... because well 2120 is NOT what i Call in the Not Too Distant Future, for me that Suggests like 25 Years, it would be SILLY to be LESS... as well HOW MUCH kind of Space Exploration is there going to be in 2030, 2040 etc.... so i assumed we would be set in 50 Years Time in the Year say 2072 maybe?  And so thats 50 Years before ALIEN.

But then its seems its going to have Xenomorphs getting LOOSE/OUT OF CONTROL and Right Here on Earth..... and so 50 Years before ALIEN?  Hey any Time before 2180 would Conflict the Franchise....

Made this account just to say Gman and Duratok are 100% correct. Max Borenstein is a hack writer. His inability to write characters and his consistency in being inconsistent toward the themes of this series are mind numbing and setting the franchise back. I literally cannot get excited for new projects as long as his name is still attached as a writer. He may not be the only one writing these films, and yes Michael Dougherty did the screenplay for KotM, but a guy can only be on so many sinking ships before you start to connect dots and try and keep him off future cruise rides.

Remember when 2014 was being praised by fans even though that film was 90% about the human characters? Now we've just completely walked back and get hyped at the prospect of 2 straight hours of monsters? Shame.

Made this account just to say Gman and Duratok are 100% correct. Max Borenstein is a hack writer. His inability to write characters and his consistency in being inconsistent toward the themes of this series are mind numbing and setting the franchise back. I literally cannot get excited for new projects as long as his name is still attached as a writer. He may not be the only one writing these films, and yes Michael Dougherty did the screenplay for KotM, but a guy can only be on so many sinking ships before you start to connect dots and try and keep him off future cruise rides.

Remember when 2014 was being praised by fans even though that film was 90% about the human characters? Now we've just completely walked back and get hyped at the prospect of 2 straight hours of monsters? Shame.

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Great news. At least, a battle between neomorphs and a protomorph should had been in Alien Covenant. The neomorph is a magnificent creature and i hope we can see it again. I doubt it but we never know.

Great topic, @BigDave as usual.

Great news. At least, a battle between neomorphs and a protomorph should had been in Alien Covenant. The neomorph is a magnificent creature and i hope we can see it again. I doubt it, but we never know.

Great topic, @BigDave as usual.

Here's a good link with the interview of the FX Chairman John Landgraf.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/noah-hawley-alien-series-is-a-beast-more-tv-and-streaming-news/

“I think Noah’s very conscious of the fact that there’s a cinematic universe, if you will, and that while it has some flexibility that the aesthetic that was established by Ridley Scott and I think continued by James Cameron is a part of that universe. By the way, Scott Free and Ridley are involved in this, very involved in this as producers,” Landgraf said. “So while I think you’ll see some inventiveness and some originality that is uniquely Noah, I also think that this show will feel like a part of the cinematic universe that you’re familiar with in terms of Alien.”

“What I can say is that — maybe pun intended — it’s a beast, Alien. It’s a really big world-building exercise,” Landgraf said.

“We’re well into it. We’re actually moving apace. I have optimism, for example, that that show may well roll out in 2023; probably will roll out in 2023,” he continued. “But we want to get it right … you’re being given access to a really precious resource when you’re granted access to such an important piece of IP. And it’s not something FX does a lot of. So … there’s not another really key piece of Fox or Disney IP that we’re working on right now. There are other things like Shogun, which might be familiar to you. But all I can tell you is that, Noah feels this way, I feel this way, Ridley and his people feel this way: We’ve got to get this one right, and we’re going to take whatever time it takes to do that.”

I've made Rise of the Kaiju

I've actually been thinking about this..

not finished yet but will update if your interested

Captain Cold

I see your point but I think 682s ability to regenerate is based in its Ability to from itself. Each molecule (no matter the state) recognizes how to build 682, and will use existing atoms to do so until it can self replicate. Maybe under stress caused by extreme heat or situations 682 becomes the aforementioned state of matter

James Inkton 5

How do you know? what if he started it

MonsterZero

I would rather it be after ALIENS, since I want to see the alien universe how James Cameron would have envisioned it or at least build off of Cameron's vision.

Post-Resurrection would be more or less ALIEN vs FIREFLY

Captain Cold you are barely into SCP so do not make a move

 Sorry Xenotaris, my vitriol wasn't directed at you! :-)  More to the sad state of the alien verse.

I too would rather the setting After Aliens...Or after A:R.

Well, most of the SCPs bend reality, so I don’t think that 536 and/or 682 can too. 

I wasted time writing my very long response then the page glitched...

so heres it in short. 682 may be able to regenerate from atoms based on what Die-hard Spino Fan said.

They increased the speed of light and nuclear force within the chamber (whatever that means pls help me I’m smol brain), which caused 682 to disintegrate until all that was left was a piece of matter  1% of its original size.

what  SCP 536 does is impossible, which is alter physics within itself. 

Oh boy, I sure Scott tries to keep the canon consistent with his prequels

BBDen

well its called Jurassic World Dominion

OK, im gonna give some input..

I cant even say its creepy pasta becuase not all of it is.

Its a collabarative pasta project that mixes scifi, horror, and sometimes humor.

SCP 504 is the best

Well I meant I HATED the idea of XENOMORPHS being on pre-ALIENS EARTH. 

I am fine with XENOMORPHS being on EARTH as long as its in the 2180 and up since at that point the Weyland-Yutani Corporation would already had THREE events (ALIEN, ALIENS, and ALIEN 3) get a good understanding HOW the Xenomorphs TICTS.

BEING set anywhere on EARTH, PRIOR to 2180's would DEFEAT the PURPOSE of RIPLEY'S STORY. I mean Ripley been a THORN in the Company's side since ALIEN, with her death would allow the Weyland Yutani Corporation free reign over getting a xenomorph

Wow, I don't even know that new film is coming!

I think regarding Special Order 937 then the Big Sub-Plot of the Franchise was that the Company wanted to GET and FAIL to Obtain a Specimen. But the Closest they (USM) came was in Alien Resurrection but then THAT went to POT!

It was always Interesting to Ponder to WHAT the Company had Planned should they had been Successful and were able to Contain the Xenomorph!  And it does seem that this was to be Explored with Blomkamps Alien V and the Red Harvest Project.  There was some Interesting ways to MOVE FORWARDS... but i dont think you Needed to BRING BACK say Ripley etc and therefore you MESS with the Canon of other Movies.

Hill and Giler (R.I.P) gave us the Special Order 937 Plot.... and the Secret Android, and so the Company being Interested for their Bio-Weapons Division.  Why the Earlier Idea by them was that the Xenomorph was a Created Bio-Weapon by the Company and that the Nostromo was sent out to become a TEST SUBJECTS for their Weapon.  And while that had Never became Canon (Company Creates the Xenomomorph) the Aspect of that PLOT is something that still is VALID as in the Company sending Expendable Humans into Unknown Situation for them.. while the Company Fully knows what will FACE the Crew of said SHIP they send out.

This seems to be something that is a Basis for the New TV Series.