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Okay, so I spent the last evening scouring over Alien and the 03 Directors cut. Neurion you are right. The flames blasting out of the corridor and across the chamber leading to the Narcissus look absolutely ridiculous, they were more than adequete to have crisped any of the crew that would be exiting the ship. Though in the Blueray the switch between the latex Ash head and the real Ash head was much better. I do have a different question though. Considering that it takes more than five seconds for the shuttle to exit the Launch bay after igniting it's engines don't you think that bay is attached to the refinery platform rather than the Nostromo. I've always thought that it was just too enormous. Even in the extensive information on the web. Modified Lockmart CM-88B Bison Transport,LENGTH – 243.8 m (800’) WIDTH – 164.6 m (540’) HEIGHT – 72.05 m (246.4’) Obviously more research is required by me. The quest is often more interesting than the actual find. Let's see what I can find....

I found this, so I guess that answers my question, :( Like I said sometimes the quest if more fun that finding the answer. The Narcissus is one of two shuttles attached to the Nostromo and is located under the port engine nacelle support. The Narcissus was the only operational shuttle in 2122, as the other one was out of order and in need of repairs. The Narcissus can support 2 people in hypersleep for extended periods. Shuttlecraft Narcissus Modified Lockmart Starcub Light Intrasystem Shuttle LENGTH – 16.3 m (53.5’) WIDTH – 19.7 m (64.5’) HEIGHT – 7.5 m (24.5’)

Absolute Proof that Time Travel does Exist... I found these while searching the internet for facts about Alien. http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/nostromo-pants-p-442.html It's no wonder Ripley was in her panties in the climactic last scene of Alien, some smarmy, little thief stole all the ships extra trousers.

i cannot believe it!! the man is going back to do both of my favourite movies!!

You know, it is possible that even if they would’ve froze Kane as Parker suggested, it might have had little or no effect on the Alien Facehugger or embryo. Considering it’s so called prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions, the results might have been the same. I have no doubt that the film intended that viewer is to believe that Ash had a fairly good idea of what was going on, especially after analyzing the organism(s) in the infirmary, combined with the acidic blood incident, and the warning signal/beacon. He was waiting for something to happen. You could tell by the anxious expression on his smug little android face during their meal. Although, I don’t think knew any details. Ashes character is analogous to the Doctor Carrington character in the old 1951 horror film “THE THING from Another World.” The same attitude of protecting the creature in the name of science or whatever. Ash had his orders. Neurion

No arguement there Neurion, he knew as much as the Company chose to make a part of his ORDERS in dealing with the extraction of a specimon. Hopefully Prometheus isn't going to totally fill in all the delicious mysteries surrounding the derelict and the SJ. I'd hate to have it be all about a human transformed into a protoSJ and doing the Altruistic thing and crashing the ship on LV-426 just to save humanity. That would be like slapping a band-aid on a shot gun wound.

AMEN!...G Solitare!

Neurion as you seem to be a long standing fan of the franchise may I pose a question to you. I'll assume you would say sure. Has anyone ever considered the possibility that a xenomorph that gestates in a SJ might be an entirely different organism? Until we have facts to the contrary who's to say that biomechanical lifeforms have very different reproductive cycles. What if the SJ's are incapable of conventional reproduction. If the facehugger/chestburster cycle were a voluntary process in order to further their species and was undertaken at a specified time. As improbible as it may seem that mosaic of H.R. Giger does raise some interesting questions, adding to the possiblities.

@Ghost Solitare "SURE"…I think that is a very plausible thought. Over the last 32 years, I’ve had similar ideas, like…maybe a SJ who gets impregnated by a facehugger with an embryo gives explosive birth to an infant Space Jockey. Maybe that’s what happens when you cross a SJ with a Xenomorph/facehugger. It could feasibly be written that this is their natural lifecycle. Could be that the harmonious and symbiotic relationship between the two is only jeopardized or turns hostile when it is interrupted by HUMANS or something else poking their noses where they have no business. Sort of an alien “coitus interruptus” situation. It is also possible that the Big “Alien” in the original film is unique to cross breeding human and the facehuggers genetics. Keep in mind that I don’t even factor in the events that occurred in ALIEN 2,3 and 4…God forbid AVP stuff. Also, Ridley Scott has mentioned the idea of the SJ’s exoskeleton being some kind of carcass or biomechanical shell/suit. So, its true appearance could be altogether very different. Maybe the facehugger is basically a kind of extra-terrestrial penis or phallus and its nature is to be ever horny for reproduction. It could have been resting/sleeping for decades or centuries…Kane quickened or woke it up…and WHAM BAM…thank ya man! Human males wake up sportin’ “wood” as well…so there are precedents. I like the idea or the voluntary impregnation. Many earthly animals including humans, do seemingly weird, crazy, and even sacrificial shit, in the name of natural reproduction. You've got great ideas Ghost, you and I "park our ships in the same hanger." Neurion out

I read some where that the warning broadcast had detailed descriptions of the alien and it's life-cycle and that Ash knew all this going in. As the nostromo computer decifered some of the message it's easy to assume the Company has more powerful computers.

Hi Sophie413 The state of the derelict ship when the Nostromo encountered it would support your theory simply because the beacon has been transmitting a very long time. It's possible that the signal was detected before man was even able to go to the moon let alone beyond our solar system. Even 1979 pseudoscience for a SF film would have detected any sophisticated power sources from orbit, They knew where to land so either they triangulated the location of the beacon, or detected the derelicts unique alloys, or resins from orbit. I'd wager that the ship itself was biomechanical in origin and that it had a lot more valuable lessons for Weyland Yutani than just the Xenomorph. Putting the obvious aside, we will have to rely on our imaginations to provide details until Prometheus is released next year.

i dunno Ridley is not in the habit of letting stuff leak, the original movie was a closed set, the man is a serious perfectionist.

@Sophie0413 yeah i understand what you mean. I even thought to myself that Ridley wouldn't give something like that away. Was just using my imagination when i saw the drawings and compared them to the stills released from the Comic Con. Maybe bit stupid ha ha.

Even if the illustration has no connection to Prometheus if you look at it from a biomechanical perspective it's quite fascinating. If its a chitinous exoskeleton, much like terrestrial insects. it would be both light weight and strong. The legs themselves could probably propel this creature from deck to deck aboard a space vessel with no need for ladders or other conveyance. It could simply leap like a nighmarish grasshopper. The carapace on the back contains at least eight armored passages that appear to be an atmospheric filtration system. That alone lends validity to the rumor that this is a biomechanical environmental suit. The deepset ocular cavities would be very prohitive regarding peripheral vision, but nature and science both find ways to compensate for any short comings.

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Hmmm, let me get that bluray out and watch that exiting Nostromo sequence. I always thought that if Ripley had disabled the cooling systems for multiple fusion reactors that steam would have to be purged at choke points along the conduits, but actual flames always did confound me. Unless of course she had ignited some sort of gas that is vented into the interior of the ship during the final stages of this Auto Destruct Sequence in order to facilitate the total obliteration of said vessel, she was cutting things a bit close there.

@Neurion The wizard is actually 1/2 native and looks like Saruman from Lord of the Rings. He is a shaman of the womens healing arts from southern California. How that happened? He must like Tacos too and sometimes wears a skirt. He used to work for the Mob in Montreal and before that was in Vietnam but ended up in the Opium trade...so almost dick chain E. I'm not sure if Ruhaniya is feminine or not. I will look into that...they are angelic spirits but not angels. Angels have no sex but will often appear in the male form. Yes aliens dream of vibrating electric sheep! Thanks for your concern about my health, I will send you some lucky charms. If I didn't have dialysis waiting for me I would not make it to see Prometheus. Been kinda feelin like that large Alien in Gigers painting, wouldn't mind some Opium right now. Cheers!

@ Neurion The wizard is 1/2 Native and looks like Saruman from TLOR. He is a Shaman of the womens healing arts of southern California. How that happened? He must like Tacos too! He used to work for the Mob in Montreal and before that was in Vietnam and ended up in the opium trade after the war...so almost Dick Chain Slinky. As for Ruhaniya being a feminine Arabic name I will have to look into that but as far as I know angelic spirits don't have sexes but regularly appear in the Nordic male form. Yes, Aliens dream of vibrating electric sheep and often abduct them. Baadddddddd! Thanks for the concern about my health. I will send you some Lucky Charms cause they are magically delicious! The truth is: If you find the end of the rainbow and all there is, is a dirty ashole and no gold, just take the pot and I have been feeling like that Large alien in Gigers painting. If I didn't have dialysis waiting for me and Tylenol...I won't be seeing Prometheus. oh ya it is masculine Arabic name. I am really wondering about that thing on the left hand side....if it is the teenage sized spawn from the Jockey or something else.....uhmmm? I love black coffee and gasoline! Anti-matter widget on the dance floor! Thems some wicked beats! I Love some tacos too! I would love to have a haram of tacos all mexican ones, You see the more hot peppers you eat, the more tacos you want to eat! Feminine! buritos will give you the runs. Now, Grasshoppers cybernetic backwards read has can You Cheers!

@Ghost Solitare It just always seemed a bit lame to me…that “Mother”/Nostromo’s programming would vent “deadly” flame at the exact point in the ship that the crew would have to pass through during an evacuation. Come to think of it…why would ship engineers design a shuttle that couldn’t possibly facilitate the entire crew…only seven members in this case. Man…this is Titanic all over again. Obviously, the minimal capacity was written in to facilitate maximum scene intensity. Personally, I think it was just a bad on-set, practical pyrotechnic effect. I think those flames are supposed to be coming Ripley’s Flame unit…and the effects timing was off. So, I think I’m just looking for some cinematic sci-fi justification…so I can watch the scene with greater ease. Not much we can do about the bogus jerkiness of Ashes decapitated head “jump cut” shot. Why didn’t Ridley Scott fix that during the re-editing of the so called “Directors Cut?” All it needed was one short insert shot. Or they could’ve digitally cheated the foreground Ripley a little more into the frame…to cover the head switch. Ughhh! N

Just a quick input here...not sure I have read all the earlier ideas, so this thought might be old and useless. Nevertheless, the creature (The Space Jockey) we see in the real Alien flick, is a corpse. One would think it has decayed over the aeons it has been stranded on that oh so remote rock. How can it then be that the sketches we see of this alien in full out streched mode looks exactly like the "corpsed" version??

I think I will buy it:)

Its not due out until the 17th. I'm going to see if I can pre-order it. FYI: Hardcovers: $23.10 @ Amazon, $23.56 @ B&N, and Borders website is useless.

Yes, they look and I think they are Space Jockeys:) Anyway, nice design for a wall-poster:)

Hey Apollo, That makes sense. I have a question, though. Why would anyone get mad at you? Regards, Rick

Hey Apollo, I think that is an excellent…yet obvious observation. At least for “old school” ALIEN “nuts” like myself. I have believed that to be the case ever since I first saw that hieroglyphic-esque Giger painting in the “Book of ALIEN” back in ’79. However, that concept was being developed in the early stages of the film’s production, when the filmmakers were still tossing around the idea of an alien pyramid on the planet/oid. Since then, the ALIEN concept has gone in some different directions. It could be that Ridley Scott and Co. have decided to revisit some of those earlier “origin” concepts and ideas. That could be verrrry interesting. I’ve always been fascinated by that original storyline anyhow. And as I understand it, the filmmakers only deleted the pyramid sequence because of financial and film running time limitations. So, I totally agree with you. As far as other members potentially getting mad at you, I completely understand your concerns. Some of the members on this forum can sometimes behave like hostile organisms. I have experienced it myself. Unfortunately for them, their hostility is usually matched by their immaturity. At least the “Alien” was acting solely on instinct…and was probably only a few hours old.:-) Peace, Neurion

Yo Neurotic where you been hiding man I haven't seen you on here in a while? You must bee getting some lessons from the "bugs". Are you sure it was solely instinctual?

Hey Rick, Well I guess I just got kind of bored of a lot of the same ol’ questions and responses. Ya know? Folks bringing up, or churning up stuff that…in my opinion had already been put to rest…or something like that. Also, SOME smart assey, neo-fans talkin’ outta their whiney, alien orifices eventually becomes tiresome…even for an ol’ ALIEN addict, born in the “Summer of love,” Space-dog like Yours Truly. As far as “instinct” goes…who knows. Maybe the “Big Chap” has a lot more to IT than just instinct. After all, from what I read, Ridley Scott originally wanted the “Alien” to start speaking on the radio after decapitating our favorite warrant officer in first flick. One never knows… Neurion P.S. Good to hear from you Rick

So the first stage of the alien life cycle comes from the comic belly button of a really large biomorphically crucified egyptian God Alien pierced by a pyramid temple with an eye on top? Or maybe it works from the bottom where the word Alien is and that butt with the guts pull out under the sacrificed Jockey (Who are Pawns...Willing?) and that creepy thing by the body to the left that might be another alien. What I really think is interesting is the cryptic alien writing that looks like squiggly worms surrounding a prism of Giger Tubes. Magically delicious death metal hellfire paradise! especially that hit of Lsd that looks like Neurions pick it is was shall be.

Hello fellow ALIEN enthusiasts, I hope this is an appropriate forum in which to pose this question. This question has “stuck in my craw” for a long time. Near the end of the original ALIEN film, Ripley is climbing into the shuttle craft ‘Narcissus’ from the ‘Nostromo.’ She’s carrying Jones in the cat box and a flamethrower. She chucks the cat box into the shuttle and before she closes the hatch, she turns to fire a few bursts from her flamethrower…back into the ‘Nostromo,’ presumably to hold off the Alien. Just before she closes the hatch, it appears that there are a few bursts of flame emitting from the ‘Nostromo’…toward Ripley. The bursts of flame continue, and are visible through hatch/port window after the hatch is closed. Does anybody else notice this?…I assume so. It “bugs” me every time…and that’s a lot of times (probably too many). So, I guess my questions are: Is this a “no brainer”…just a botched flamethrower special effect? Was it intentional? Is it just supposed to be a normal part of the ‘Nostromo’s’ self destruct sequence? OR am I just “seeing things?” I’m interested in your input. Peace, Neurion

Ahhhh…It’s nice to be back. The Adventures of Neurion in Acheronland…where logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead. And Ruhaniya is talking backwards…and the Dread Queen’s “off with her head!” PROMETHEUS: “Eat me…drink me…” GREAT EAGLE: “magically delicious…in need” NEURION: Six feet is a very good height indeed, ...and now back to PROMETHEUS and these "happy summer days."

Ahhhh…It’s nice to be back to "The Adventures of Neurion in Acheronland"…where logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead. And Ruhaniya is talking backwards…and the Dread Queen’s “off with her head!” PROMETHEUS: “Eat me…drink me…” GREAT EAGLE: “magically delicious…in need” NEURION: "Six feet is a very good height indeed!" ...and now on to "PROMETHEUS" and what's left of these "happy summer days."

Oh crap Neurion I hope your not reading what i say backwards...i tried that once but ended up in the hospital like that Mayan astronaut who smoke some salvia divanorum and saw the hands Sheva stacking flames into a pit pyramid and when it got to the last one it was the end of summer. (Endless Prometheus Rave Techno begins...while strapped into your space jockey chair and space drugs are pumped into your brain)

Well Ruhaniya, I do have to read it backwards sometimes. And I’m not much of an herb guy…I’m a Bushmills Black Bush Irish Whiskey man myself. Of course, I wouldn’t mind givin’ that Weylan Yutani Aspen Beer onboard the Nostromo a shot. I usually don’t drink domestics, but I could make an exception. Besides, I don’t believe in Mayan or Mesoamerican superstition any way. Oh well, if I’m wrong none of us will be around after December 21, 2012 to debate it anyhow. Peace, Neurion

Oh Ruhaniya, I've got question for you. is your handle "Ruhaniya" because your parents named you that...or because you have a penchant for White Magic and the like?

Not my name because I'm not in plural arabic but if your girlfriends constellation crotch smells like a Taco thats O.K. if your mexican. If everyone just stopped drinking alchohol and turned it into fuel and grew hemp and turned it into fuel and took all our shit and turned it into fuel we could get off the grid. Cause the kings do not give pearls to swines and monkeys. When they build that super computer in 2012 maybe it's got something to say about it. I lived with a white wizard for many years and he liked that Irish Whiskey too but only when fishing with a shotgun. You know..."For close encounters". I like the near beer Holsten 0.0 % for the love of real beer taste. It's too bad they don't have a Guinness version with a widget.

@Ruhaniya, As a matter of fate, I’m not Mexican…but I do like SOME constellations, some crotches, and some tacos. Was the white wizard you lived with ex-vice Dick Cheney? You may not be in plural Arabic, but you do seem spiritual. And for all I know, you could’ve had a feminine Arabic name. It is…is it not? I actually prefer A&W over near beer…it has a frosty mug taste and less aftertaste. I like Guinness very much. Tastes great…more filling…and can be substituted with a delicate mixture of black coffee, gasoline, and just a hint of dark matter…and a widget. Do you think Aliens dream of electric sheep? N P.S. How is you health lately?

The Xenomorph that we all know of is OVERCOOKED. Its been ruined with ALIEN RESURRECTION and all the AVSP series shite. Bring back the rough and ready raw suspense that Scott brought. It is discussed that a new creature will be shown and the Space Jockey. Am sure i can speak for everyone when i say i cant wait for that first shot on screen of either creatures!!!!!! It's been a long time comin'!!! Top Dollar!!!! ;)

Hey, I think the designs of the Space Jockey look really impressive. I hope that this what we will see (Or similiar) in the firm because as THEUSPROM quoted it could be any design they like. But who can forget the famous scene in ALIEN of the Space Jockey in it's chair. This is what everyone wants to see and the story behind it. I was unsure at first about the mutation of a human turning into a Space Jockey or suit but it's starting to grow on me (- ish ha). Maybe we need something like this in the film and possibly this BEING inside the suit. Am sure whatever Ridley Scott's vision is for this it will be fascinating either way and we will not be disappointed. Cool pics though!!! ;)

Am just after looking at the leaked photos from Comic Con there again and there is one photo that sort looks like a small/ young Space Jockey that looks similar to the drawings above. (Okay might sound stupid at the moment ha) But looks like the same features as the legs and arms possibly. If you can't get looking at them at the moment i'll try and get the link up. But if you do find them i think you know which one am on about. The creature looks orange/ brown that seems to be walking out or in of a lab with the crew in the background. http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/images_from_ridley_scotts_prometheus_comic_con_footage_leak/

Ghostface, You have my full apologies sir! However, Spartacus must realise that telling us all he has "seen the new Alien from the dailies" will raise some eyebrows because we are all such big fans of this franchise.He must at least realise posting a comment like that will hold no weight unless he can back it up is some way.He didn't even explain on how he saw the dailies?? He must also realise that his threatening behaviour is not acceptable just because it is on the internet.He should be reprimanded for that alone. From my side, this will not happen again, and again I apologise.However, I still think I am right about his post. Check this link out scroll down to Steven J Ross and read his post.Sound familiar?Except he gets a bit mixed up with the years.(And he is still going on about Alien Harvest). And for being such a big Alien fan, you think he could spell Giger right. http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/04/08/prometheus-michael-fassbender-on-ridley-scotts-breathtaking-project/ Anyway, back on topic.