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no i like soundtracks. (exept when the music ISNT GOOD!)
I don’t like it either
I will too.
the coloration on this is....interesting
or your not interested in soundtracks
i spy, with my little eye, scifed running out of ideas for articles.
This is interesting, i will listen to it.
because that sounds hilarious
Why am I imaging war with those things
this but ghidorah
judjuing by what happens at the 1:49 mark im just gonna assume this ghidorah has extendible necks.
i mostly feel like people are just gonna write fights between scorpius and indoraptor
im not wrong, im not wrong
I guess the design could have been worse. Overall, I have no negative thoughts on this.
Yes the eyes
Reflecting Back, I don’t particularly like this design
I mean it’s cool but it’s not my favorite
Shin Godzilla never seemed scary to me, then Again, I really like scary movies
so i’m desensitized
Yes. Sorry, I had a brain fart. It's an Earth ship on its way to Origae-6, so of course no fellow juggernaut would have a ready means of tracking that.
I question it. And I probably would get bored after the 7th time.
dont question my level of entertainment
Kattozilla,
I wouldn't go that far.
heck if someone just put this on a loop for 2 hours i'd probably watch it
that’s body horror
It is a good theme....
I think that YES they could Detect and Connect with their OWN kind of Ship absolutely. I think we can ASSUME that by the Time any Engineers would return to Planet 4 then David would be LONG GONE... and so if they could SCAN the Local Space so say within 200LY from Planet 4 then they would surely Detect a Number of Earth Ships within say that Range but i cant see HOW they would PIN POINT the Covenant.
Unless as i was saying the Engineers are on their way lets say they are 2 Years away and Detect a ALIEN Ship on their Scanners that is NEAR to Planet 4 and so they then GO TO intercept and Track that Ship (which would be the Covenant) i would assume they would INTERCEPT the Covenant like WAY before it got to Oriage-6
Apart from that it would be IF on Planet 4 they had anything that would DETECT and TRACK the Covenant and which Direction it was going (maybe even have a Visual on the Ship so they can TELL which Ship it is), but again i FIND IT like Difficult to Accept that the such a System would DETECT the Covenant heading in a Certain Direction and then Determine Exactly where it would be going. Unless the System Detects the Ship leaving the Area of Planet 4 and can LOCK ON and Track its Entire Journey?
We maybe Cant Rule that out...
I think we have to Bare in Mind that the Covenant will arrive at Origae-6 in the Year 2112, after another 88 Months i think we can SAFELY ASSUME the Engineers Ships can get to Origae-6 in FAR LESS TIME. And so that means that Unless they Arrive at Planet 4 when David is Nearly at Origae-6 or has been on Oriage-6 already then the Engineers would Intercept David before he gets there.
This all depends on IF they have a SYSTEM that detects and tracks any Ships that come Close and to HOW FAR they can Track the Ships and then IF these Systems are still Active. Maybe the Scorpion Ship could have done this but that was taken OUT.
However IF we see David take a Engineer Ship from Planet 4 then YES the Engineers will know its EVERY MOVE.
Ridley Scott had indicated the SET-UP he had said...
*That David is OFF to the Planet (we have to ASSUME thats Origae-6)
*There will be incoming 3/4 Parties coming to Investigate.
*One of these Parties are the Engineers who Return every now and again and they Discover what has Happened to Planet 4 and they will be AFTER the Culprit.
Ridley Scott had further said that the Next Movie would NOT be about Xenomorphs it would be about A.I and WHAT KIND of a World would David Create?
This indicates to me that David would arrive to Origae-6 where he could USE this Place to Create but where he MAY-NOT be just Creating Xenomorphs. When talking about A.I he said that Replicants are A.I and so he is seeing that A.I can be Organic.
The Engineers will turn up in the 3rd Act, but there are another 2/3 Parties which means AT LEAST another TWO Parties where another could be SIMILAR or a Part of one of the other Factions. Is ONE of these David and the Covenant? or does he mean that another 3/4 will Arrive?
The Engineers are ONE if they have Walter with them i guess thats 1/2 of them, but we cant be sure as to WHEN/HOW they determine where to GO but we know that they will ARRIVE at Oriage-6 at some point after First going to Planet 4.
It is LIKELY that another ONE of the Parties has to be a Weyland-Yutani ship that is Military/Science that is going to Origae-6 in DIRECT response to the Advent.
So we have Engineers and a W-Y Ship, i think they WONT arrive until David has been on Origae-6 for 1-3 Years where he is Creating whatever kind of World he wants. There is another PARTY that i would assume is another HUMAN SHIP and maybe ONE that has NO IDEA about David or the Advent and so would assume they would be arriving at Origae-6 where the Covenant Mission has started to SET-UP their Colony.
Then it would seem another PARTY has to be SOMEONE or a Group that is Connected and/or maybe Traveling with ONE of the other THREE Parties.
Seems a LOT to Cram into a Single Movie and its LIKELY the Derelict comes into Play either from the Returning Engineers, or from LV-223 after the Engineers have FIRST been to Oriage-6
I assume that the FINAL Connection will be that
a) Engineer Ship leaves Origae-6 with the Eggs and is going to LV-223 but ONLY gets as far as LV-426.
b) A Engineer Ship arrives at LV-223 having been to Origae-6, and has some Eggs/Specimens that they then MASS PRODUCE on LV-223 and a Ship leaves LV-223 with those EGGS but only gets as far as LV-426
So i think we Certainly would have NEEDED like TWO Movies.
Again this is ONLY going by what the SET-UP is and what RS had indicated about the Direction of the Prequels, this does-not mean this is HOW we could see it Continued. Just seems this is likely what RS had intended.
We'll have to disagree about the capabilities of the Juggernaut! This is SF after all. I can't think of one good reason why a hijacked, intelligent, bio-mechanical, alien spacecraft could not communicate autonomously to its owners! I could easily see one or more being drawn to Origae-6.
It looks Breathtaking. If later Toho Godzilla films have this level of CGI, I'll be satisfied.
Certainly i think as FAR as David goes, he must have some Confidence that he can Create a Horde of his WOLVES and that he feels that Mankind would NOT be able to Control them ONCE they are UNLEASHED.... I think that it would make sense if the Company Investigate LV-223 and Planet 4 but YES they would know that David is going to Origae-6 and they would LIKELY send a Ship to Intercept him there.
The ONLY Problem for David is that his WOLF would need to be Transported and Contained, if the Company would take say a Handful of Eggs and they GOT out of Control then the Ship would become a Drifting Space Hulk but if this is on a Auto-Pilot then the Cargo would eventually Reach the Core Systems.
Should a SHIP go and arrive at Origae-6 and Encounter the Xenomorph and be AWARE of WHY it is that David had created them, the Survivors could ESCAPE and maybe Organize a Mission to NUKE the Place.... but you have the Potential that some may think... HANG ON... just take more Precautions because we would really GAIN a LOT from having a Specimen...
Regarding the ENGINEERS and Origae-6 then i think thats more Problematic, i just cant ACCEPT they would know where David is going, what we know is that its LIKELY that Origae-6 is 7-8X Further away from Planet 4 than Earth is and so within a Radius of 7-8 Years Travel for most Earth ships, then within that ZONE there would be NOTHING to make the Covenant Stand out as Culprit.
Unless Planet 4 has some kind of Scanner/Detector that was able to detect a Certain Frequency, Warp Signature thats UNIQUE to the Covenant Ship. Or if the Engineers are NOT that FAR away when the Covenant leaves and can detect a Ship leaving Planet 4 and are able to TRACK IT... but surely they would INTERCEPT the Covenant like WAY before it gets to Origae-6.
The more LIKELY way has to be that either.
1) The Covenant Crew have left behind something that would indicate where in Space that Origae-6 is like a Chart that was in a Back Pack (or by some Miracle Survived the Lander Explosion)
2) After David had met the Crew, (there are MANY hours they was on Planet 4 where we NEVER saw every single Moment). So maybe they Told David where they was going and he went away and Drew a Map or Marked it someway that the Engineers could maybe Find?
3) The Engineers encounter WALTER and somehow they can Discover where David is going from HIM?
I think that Number 3 is the more likely Route they would take.
However you could have the Company Send a Mission to Planet 4, if you have received the ADVENT you would Research what the Prometheus Mission was about and you would MAYBE have a Android on the Mission who would learn the same things that David did during his Journey to LV-223 so that WHEN the Engineers turn up then this ANDROID is able to Communicate with the Engineers and INFORM them of where David had gone.
A BIG Reason for the OT is to look at the Stalemate we seem to be in at the Moment, the Prequels had NOT gone down well to Everyone, they seem to NOT have much of a IDEA on HOW to go and do another ALIEN Movie and so FAR we have had TWO ideas for Alien V which BOTH have Ripley and Xenomorphs and so its seems those in CHARGE dont have much of a Clue on doing something NEW. Which is WHY i do applaud RS for attempting to do so.
The Prequels had introduced the Engineers and a Creation Plot that means these GUYS could have been Responsible for MANY Worlds that have Humanoid Creations even more HUMANS, it seems that Creation was IMPORTANT to them and that the DESTRUCTION was ONLY something they did when they FELT that a Creation has NOT been a Success or is Deemed a Threat or have UPSET their Creators in some way.
So it means that Earth was NOT the only place they Invested Time and Effort in and you have to ASK... if we had BEHAVED in a way that Pleased them, then would they STILL be coming to Visit us and NOT want us Destroyed?
And so its UNLIKELY they had Intended to DESTROY all the Worlds they have Seeded unless a Faction of the Engineers (or Sub-Creation) became Jealous or some other Reason that THEY wanted to SPITE all of their Brothers/Creators various Efforts and Creations?
And so with the Prequels i think some Fans wanted to KNOW more about the Engineers their Culture, History, WHY they Seed Worlds and WHAT other Worlds/Races have they Created. I am sure many who was looking forwards to a Prometheus Sequel were looking to Discover more about THEM!
While some may wanted to know MORE about the Xenomorph and Origins, but i think in GENERAL it was NOT because Prometheus did-not Answer those, the Clues were too Ambiguous, but i think it was because Prometheus simply LACKED any kind of Xenomorph Replacement... Fifield Zombie Mutant was our MAIN Monster who KILLED most the Crew in a Single Attack.
And so lets say that Fifield did-not do much Killing... lets say we saw Milburn Backburst a Neomorph or Similar that Grew at the same Rate as in AC and so the Hammerpede acted as the SEED PLANTER... i think something like this would have appeased more Fans.
And so just because we are in LIMBO with the Prequels and seems NOT having much of a idea on WHERE to take the Franchise that Steers Away from the Prequels.
I think you can give Clues to the Engineers Culture and Worlds they Visit, and you can also introduce a Threat that is related to the Horrors of LV-223 that does-not have to be a VANILLA XENOMORPH.
And so YES you can do that by going to ANOTHER WORLD, a World that is FAR FAR away the Scenario i USED is ONLY just a Example.... and Kepler-452b because it is Thought to be VERY Earth-like and 1400LY away means that the Nostromo for Instance would take 30 Years to Reach. So this World would NOT go and Conflict with the Franchise. But you could go to a World thats 2000-3000 Light Years away, you could SET it in the Year 2120-2160 (Before ALIEN or ALIENS say but it would NOT go conflict with those Movies).
I also think to Discover a World so FAR away with Remnants of a Civilization with Construction/Buildings like Earth had say 3000+ Years ago and HUMAN Remains that Date to many THOUSANDS of Years ago, would OPEN UP and UPLIFT the Prometheus Plot.... we would be like... WOW so Mankind had NOT only been SEEDED on Earth.... and to have some Engineer Bodies would indicate that Humans and Engineers could Co-Exist which they maybe could with Earth many Thousands of Years ago.
So you could get the FANS to maybe take Interest in this and THEN you can Explore the Engineers more... or if the Fans are NOT interested in this but like the MONSTER then you know thats what to Cover more..
I am sure a Lot of Fans had interest in the Engineers, some maybe wanting more of the LV-223 Brutes others maybe wanting a more DEEPER understanding of their Species etc.
I am sure a Lot of Fans want to see some Horrors but maybe they dont all think they should be Carbon Copies of what we seen in ALIEN/ALIENS.
They seem to NOT be so keen on making Androids the Center Point, but indeed the Rivalry between Human Companies and Factions and Agendas is always INTERESTING.
But the BIGGEST thing about ALIEN..... was the UNKNOWN, were you go to Explore Space for whatever Agenda you have and HOPES and that sometimes Space is NOT a Friendly Place and with the Unknown can come HORROR!
And so Mankinds Greed and Curiosity has caused Trouble between our People, but when in SPACE these things can LEAD us to something ALIEN, HORRIFIC and something we are TOTALLY unprepared for!
As the Premise of Prometheus shows..... WE ARE NOT ALONE!
Just Checked Out the Free League's Alien RPG seems interesting i would be tempted to get it to read some of the FLUFF. I think the Interesting thing is shows is that SPACE from Humans on Earth is NOT something thats TOTALLY under the Control of Weyland-Yutani.
On Earth we have at the Moment Different Factions who i am SURE would all like to have a SLICE of the Space Cake should they be able to achieve the Technology we see in ALIEN, this is NOT Only Limited to the USA/NASA but you have RUSSIA you have CHINA, you have the EU and i am sure if Korea and Japan worked together on a Space Program they would be Considered a Contender in a Space Race.
And so WHEN you have Different Factions who have their OWN many Worlds/Moons and Space Stations out their in the COSMOS they would surely WANT to Protect their ASSETS, they would ALSO want to be FIRST to any Potential NEW and Rewarding ASSET. And may go to some Extremes to be FIRST to get there....
So in the ALIEN Universe you can have Conflict that is between Mankind and Various Factions, we DONT just have to revolve around WY and Xenomorphs, but as far as ANY kind of ASSET that has a Genetic or Military Application which the Xenomorph is but also the Black Goo and what else is on LV-223 then i am sure other Companies would be looking to GAIN those ASSETS.... at a FOLLY.
These kind of things could be BETTER explored in a TV Series, but in Context to the OT then YEAH i guess it does-not have to be Weyland-Yutani who are always ENDING UP on a World where Horrors relating to the Xenomorph are found.
I thought shin godzilla was really unique, and I wish we got more "unsettling" depictions of godzilla in the past, because they somehow made a scary movie not with jumpscares or fear, but just by showing how disgustingly gross and cruel the creature was.
Free League's Alien RPG, which has been out for over a year and continues to publish supplements, including the newest one, The Colonial Marines Sourcebook, has been not only bringing the Alien universe into tight focus with all of its different elements, but building and expanding it beautifully. The guy who writes most of it, Andrew Gaska, used to be the Fox canon consultant for the Alien franchise, so he isn't just pulling his stuff out of the air, and the recent expansion was reviewed and ok-ed by Disney, indicating that they consider the material canon. It amazes me that none of this ever gets mentioned on these forums, because its not just a great game, its literally the best and most comprehensive thing in Alien media in years. AND it offers a ton of insight into where things can and probably will go with Alien - including the Engineers, the various technological aspects, the politics of the Alien universe, the corporate elements, and a cohesive time line. As a fan of Alien, it feels to me like this is the place to look for where things are going. I've brought it up before, but the topic just kind of floated away. I might suggest looking at it, because its clear, whether you care about table top RPGs or not, the Alien universe it not stalled. We might still be wondering what the next movie project will be like, but its seeds are already out there.
The atomic breath rings are probably one of my favorite design choices
I think after this latest episode we can safely reply to this thread with, pretty darn powerful.
I think Salunga will actually be important, Because of its Japanese name being based on Charunga, the enemy of vishnu.
It is the bow of Vishnu, which Godzilla could be, so Salunga is a Tool for Godzilla Ultima
100% agree with this.
We need more worldbuilding in the alien verse.
Trillions of planets ( and trillions of moons! )in the galaxy....
I suspect W T ( and any other corporations ) are looking for Earth like analogues....Maybe all the aliens are on un-Earthlike planets or moons ( like Lv-426 )?
Maybe they find a perfect world, but one of the moons has some nasty creatures....Would you want to live in paradise near such a moon? Or would the corporations hide the secret from the new world's colonist? Maybe W T would try to clean up the moon and safeguard 'paradise'? Need someone to write this novel! Lol!
Oh! GODZILLA IS AN ONI! Oni = Japanese Demons
