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HinikunaGoji,
They seem to have been a loose homage to Terror of MechaGodzilla.
The false advertising of MechaGodzilla is definitely my most bothersome issue with the anime trilogy, but like the false advertising of 2014, it's been long enough that I don't care anymore. Both stand on their own story apart from the marketing pretty well.
@BigDave, Hox..........just incredible, remarkable, transcendental in fact! Truly beyond words.
I am not sure how you both keep up with these levels of introspection, detection, re-combinative, synthetic mastery of this subject the way you both do at times. It is absolutely astounding. BigDave if there was ever a way to pull this entire franchise from the pit where it resides you just lifted it up effortlessly and I so humbly quote..
"Either way we see a Rebellion a Fall of these Ancient Godlike beings where the Engineers Ancestors then either Inherent the FIRE of the GODS or they Steal it.
The THEMES of Hubris when Sub-Creating or Engineering and TRYING to Play God come into PLAY at the Higher Level.
You DONT even Need the Xenomorph as you can WRITE THEM OFF..."
Some how BigDave you solved it entirely I believe. The equation works...the vision is grand enough all else can be forgive and so much is way in the past.
It is almost biblical what you are saying in a way too. These most ancient of themes that will eternally play out on grander scales where mere mortals are always the currency by which the Gods divine a larger flock, or create more enemies.
Hox I think where you are going is equally prophetic as well. Your science is accurate.
So I understand it as such in this way. Please follow along. Human beings have had a spectacular evolution in the past 150 years. Our collective science has taken a complete departure from all the rest of human history. The very machines we communicate back and forth with on are proof of this and so much more.
My main point in all of this is the structural necessity of so many things that were once completely all dependent all on analog structures. Our collective mechanical science was just crude elemental parts that our collective hands could build, the cogs and wheels if you will. However, in todays subjective scientific gestalt lays this newly found world of possibilities where machines are self building from the nano-layer (atomic lattice) and bootstrapping themselves right into the desired larger mechanisms of force.
So this is power to behold. The next level is below the electron at the quark field and so on and so forth. So far it is all looking like we go sub electron in the next hundred years and so you do have these machine spaceships grown from the basic elements; but, more importantly you have them do it even quicker from the sub atomic level with a digital catalyst much faster than the speed of light.
Now this gentleman is stealing fire from God. I have mentioned before machines that work faster than the speed of light. Just give that a little more consideration as how it might apply to computers and digital self assembling things.
Human beings, all of us objectively, we are elucidating, deriving these new methods from all the digital systems that we have constructed that work at the speed of light. Now the real work must be done to go faster than the speed of light through sub atomic interactions, aka quantum mechanics.
Even though both of you are not scientists in the strictest of terms, what you are both saying is equally enlightening. There will be a great leap in the next 50 years as quantum computing evolves rapidly and then overtakes all other forms of thinking derivatively in every aspect of mankind.
What you are both saying is part of that next evolution through the sub atomic interactions where self mechanization is no longer the priority and this business of what is it to be a God comes fully into realization.
This was meant to be no matter what. In fact it is unavoidable. No matter what we all do next...there will be quantum computers....then there will be an even more faster mastery of self assembly at through the sub atomic level below the electron.
The aliens that inhabit all the trillions of galaxies all around us did not need to conquer or fight wars for more land. Land as we understand space in three dimensions and one variable of time is only a small barrier field. The real idea of this place is what happens when you combine other faster interactions than the speed of light. The concept of space in three dimensions is then forever irrelevant. Space and time become arbitrary concepts - infinite sets of coordinates. The multiverse is not so much as necessary a concept as the idea to project your ideas and manifest them where and when you want them is what is most important in any further scientific endeavor. The freedom to choose when, where, and why are so explicit. You both tacitly cling to the vestiges of this arcane prior analog world and yet your voices are loud and clear you secretly dream of the freeness of digital through sub atomics.
Maybe this is not more formally understood to the both of you. Your minds can be locked in these analog functions where to dream is almost the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge. You may look brothers but don't touch, you can touch but don't eat....you may eat brothers but don't enjoy....you know the rest. Rebellion has always been at the core of our desires to be more...
We are all still primitives comparatively as it stands right now. We are all still stumbling around in the dark looking for the light....the right illumination to show us the way. Your grasps at real divinity are what all men have fought and died for though-out the ages.
Mere fake wealth in the forms of derivatives will not do. You both want the real thing. Just remember all real things do and must come at a price.
I think before we had Alien Covenant then YES i think you could have Explored some Ancient Origin to all that Technology and Aesthetic and had INTRODUCED another Layer before the Engineers.
The Engineers Ancestors could have been some RACE that say another HIGHER RACE had either....
1) Came Across and USED them for Hosts and were Worshiped as Gods by the Engineers Ancestors.
2) As above but THEY had Engineered the Engineers Ancestors from some Race they Came Across.
3) They had Created the Engineers Ancestors from Scratch.
Either way we see a Rebellion a Fall of these Ancient Godlike beings where the Engineers Ancestors then either Inherent the FIRE of the GODS or they Steal it.
The THEMES of Hubris when Sub-Creating or Engineering and TRYING to Play God come into PLAY at the Higher Level.
You DONT even Need the Xenomorph as you can WRITE THEM OFF...
You can Introduce the Engineers former Enslavers and these Guys have a Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic like the Xenomorph...... RE-INVENT the STARBEAST.
