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Gojirafan2013Godzilla ForumMy Idea for a MonsterVerse Finale.

Some additional information I didn’t get to include…

- I chose to name this film Godzilla and Kong: War of the Monsters since it is not only kept in theme with Godzilla: King of the Monsters, but also sounds very marketable to general audiences since it includes both Godzilla and Kong in the title.

- Apparently, there’s a segment towards the end of Godzilla vs. Kong: One Will Fall: The Art of the Ultimate Battle Royale that talks about the creative team at Legendary being interested in exploring outer space in the future since it’s teeming with potential. This could mean they’re thinking of including space monsters like Keizer Ghidorah and Gigan in future films. If Gigan ever shows up in the MonsterVerse, I think it’d be awesome to see him team up with Keizer Ghidorah, much like how he did with the classic Ghidorah in Godzilla vs Gigan.

- Another thing I want to say about Keizer Ghidorah is that he could be a literal hydra, possessing five heads and four tails. He could also be red, making him look devilish and Destroyah-esc).

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

Thats a Interesting Point i have Overlooked and i do-not RECALL it being Mentioned before....

We do-not see Every Single Moment of Activity in ALIEN, so Quite a Bit occurs OFF-SCREEN.   So the Xenomorph looking to Egg Morph Lambert but its Interrupted by Parker who the Xenomorph then KILLS and then the Xeno is like "Darn It"  and "oh well No Point in Egg Morphing her Now"

Is a Possible Explanation......i think we can SAFELY ASSUME that the Xenomorph can-not Gestate in a Dead Host.  At least at the TIME of ALIEN and ALIENS.

But then it could have Egg Morphed Lambert still as a Egg that would be there for any Unsuspecting Host who would Board the Ship in Future.

I think when JC came along and Turned the Xenomorph into some kind of Hive Creature like a Ant, Bee, Wasp or Termite then it seems he THOUGHT this was a Preexisting Organism and NOT a Engineered Organism.

Then the Procreation is something he may have Consider to be Close to ONE of those Insect Species and INDEED this is WHAT some of the Comics had Explored (Royal Jelly).  Were as i always THOUGHT that you dont have to COPY say Nature in Every Aspect...... you can have something thats more ALIENY otherwise its ONLY the Aesthetic that makes it ALIEN.

I had before Considered as to HOW do we get to a Queen, and i thought maybe the Eggs that are AWAY from a HIVE/QUEEN would Produce the Semi-Clear Dome Versions of the Xenomorph (Drone/Runner).   And that this ORGANISM has ONE Agenda.... to Establish a Queen.

And so it could Egg Morph a Host to either Produce a Queen or a Royal Face Hugger, but it also could Egg Morph a Host to Produce a Traditional Xenomorph, which it may ATTEMPT to do this First so that there is a Large Enough Brood of them to Construct a Small Hive and then they can Egg Morph a Queen.  It would DEPEND on how the Drone/Runner would feel about the Environment and Threat to a Queens Survival.......

So on the Nostromo maybe the Xenomorph Felt there was NOT enough of a Threat and so IF a Queen was Born from Dallas then it could go and START to Lay Eggs.  But if the Xenomorph would FEEL that a Queen would NOT have a Safe Environment from Threats then it would First Attempt to Create more Drones to Protect the Eventual Queen and this would Depend on Preserved Threat/Environment.

Once a Small Hive is Established then they would Produce a Queen Egg (Egg Morph) and then ONCE the Queen is a ADULT and can Begin to LAY EGGS then she Produces Pheromones or something that would then within a Radius make all the Eggs Produce Warrior Xenomorphs.

Once a Queen has Established her Hive and Eggs then maybe the Drones will MOLT into Warriors?    Maybe a Face Hugger Embryo is also Affected by the Queens Pheromones etc.... so IF a Face Hugger would Infect a Host who is FAR from the Hive then maybe it would Produce a Drone to Establish another Colony of Xenomorphs?

That was my kind of THINKING about it all.....

I think that YES you could have it that a Drone will MOLT into a Warrior after so many Days, i think that YES you could have the Queen be able to Determine what kind of Egg she Lays so some will Produce a Drone, some a Warrior and some a Queen.

I know some (JC) see the Drone as just a Juvenile Phase of the Xenomorph like Troublesome Teenage Xenomorphs.   I think this could work because the Chest Buster in ALIENS did look close to that from ALIEN.

But you could come up with other ways they Procreate.... the Queen looks more like a Termite (Swollen Abdomen/Egg Sack Connection).  But if we made them a Carbon Copy then a Queen would NEED to MATE with a Male in order to Produce Eggs.

You have the ROYAL JELLY which in the Insect World is just a more Rich in Nutrients Diet that would cause the Larva to become a Queen.  But in Context to the Franchise i think to have a Drone be able to Egg Morph a Host in way that it can Genetically Produce either a Worker/Drone Egg or a Queen is what works Best.

 

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumHow The MonsterVerse Could Introduce "Son of Kong"

monsterzero9,
Just stop spamming. Keep conversation relevant. If you have something more to add, just edit the post.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

I feel like this would actually give Madison Russell the chance to be put in the main role as maybe she's the single non-ignorant human, and have her be forced to confront the massive mistake herself since no one else would.  Also it would bring her story full circle since her whole story throughout the MonsterVerse has revolved around Godzilla and Ghidorah.

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SasquaDashGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

HinikunaGoji

I do like the idea of humanity's arrogance resurrecting Ghidorah and him being the ultimate punishment for mankind, but I feel if they keep bringing him back over and over again it would start feeling repetitive and I can see critics and general audiences not responding well to it. I like how the MonsterVerse Ghidorah is established as an ancient threat and that there's potentially a much larger story that he's a part of, with us only seeing a fraction of it in KOTM. It gives Legendary the opportunity to potentially use him in the future (if Toho will allow them) without making it feel too repetitive, while also using him to expand on the MonsterVerse's timeline.  

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

SasquaDash

I actually like the idea of humans resurrecting him in different forms like mechagodzilla, it’s isn’t realistic but it makes him sort of mystic, but I dunno, I don’t see it happening

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SasquaDashGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

I think bringing back Ghidorah as Mecha-King Ghidorah wouldn't really work well in the series. We've seen Ghidorah fight Godzilla in modern day and we've seen his consciousness posses Mechagodzilla, reviving him again in modern day would feel redundant, too predictable, and repetitive. However, since Legendary established that Ghidorah's rivalry with Godzilla goes back thousands of years, bringing him back in a prequel could work. Establishing how he came to Earth and how his rivalry with Godzilla started, it could add on to the timeline and mythology of the series, maybe they could tie it into the ancient Titan War. 

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

It seems I've caused chaos with my idea about MechaGhidorah.

Well....this image is the best metaphor for this situation: 

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumHow The MonsterVerse Could Introduce "Son of Kong"

monsterzero9's spam posts have been removed and he has been warned.

Keep conversation reasonably relevant and to as few posts as possible. If you want to add something to a post you just made, simply use the edit button.

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumHappy Birthday ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR 2

"Not a Problem for me as my Computer is from 2007 LOL... But ALAS many Programs and Sites do-not work well because of HOW OUT OF DATE my OS is."

Well I do have an old Windows XP. Also a part of me is waiting for it to appear on GOG

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

"For me.... IF the Xenomorph is the Perfect Survivalist then you should NOT be Limited to the ONE method of Procreation, and WHY CANT we have Multiple Avenues to get to a Egg Laying Variant (Queen)."

Yeah that is what I have been saying. I think the xenomorph should have multiple ways of reproduction, depending on the situation of coarse. 

"When looking at ALIEN though this is NOT really shown, as you would have to ASK as to WHY has the Xenomorph also NOT gone and Captured Lambert and Parker?  It would then Obtain either....  4 Eggs, or 2 Eggs and Two Hosts!"

The way I see it, I think the Kane's son/Big Chap was going to eggmorph Lambert and Parker but Parker attacked it causing the xenomorph to defend itself and with Parker dead it had no use for Lambert, so it killed her. This is speculation but that's what I think.


Also I like to think the senior member or alpha of the initial xenomorph outbreak as in the xenomorph doing the egg morphing gets the privilege to mature into a praetorian then a Queen instead of making themselves a queen

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumHappy Birthday ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR 2

" I'm thinking of installing AVP2, just need to figure out how to get it to work with Windows 10"

Not a Problem for me as my Computer is from 2007 LOL... But ALAS many Programs and Sites do-not work well because of HOW OUT OF DATE my OS is.

But ONE Benefit is the Ability to Install and Play Games from like Prior to 2010 (Run Slow though well those from after 2006).

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

"Queenmorphing"

I think this is something that could be Explored i think MOST things should be OPEN to Debate and could be Explored if we ever see another ALIEN Movie.  If we can ACCEPT the Xenomorph is a True Survivor then having a Species that has MANY ways it can Procreate would make it a Exceptional Survivor.... but with the SINGLE FLAW that it requires a Host.

The Queen may seem more Ideal as a MASS METHOD of Procreation, Certainly if it is a HIVE SPECIES like a Bee, Ant, Wasp or Termite then Producing Hundreds or Thousands of Eggs makes sense.  Should the Queen be Killed or Die, then we would have to LOOK at HOW you can get another Queen and IF we look at the Xenomorph as a Species that can come up with Multiple avenues to a Egg Laying Variant then that  would make it as i said a Exceptional Survivor.

Egg Morphing may seem more Limited but its actually NOT, as it would ACT more like how a Virus would.... even if we take the Zombie Apocalypse Movies where a Bite from a Zombie will eventually TURN you into  a Zombie.

A Egg Morphing Species of Xenomorphs would START OFF being SLOWER way to Procreate, but a Xeno say Eggs Morphs a Person... when we get TWO who can then Egg Morph and they Infect then Egg Morph like Two Each you have 4, between the 6 they then Amass another 20 Egg Morphs and so and so ON.

This Method would allow the Xenomorph Menace to Spread Wide and Once the Ball is Rolling it will INFECT more Places..

When looking at ALIEN though this is NOT really shown, as you would have to ASK as to WHY has the Xenomorph also NOT gone and Captured Lambert and Parker?  It would then Obtain either....  4 Eggs, or 2 Eggs and Two Hosts!

The Egg Morph scene makes more SENSE... if this Egg Morph would Produce a Queen, this way then Dallas and Brett would be all that is NEEDED to then have a Egg Producing Queen who could lay 10's or Hundreds of Eggs on the Nostromo.

Camerons Concept does take too much from Nature and the Insect Kingdom, but when your left to Consider as to HOW do you get EGGS?  Well in the Real World they are LAID.....  But Ridley Scott also likes to take Influence from Nature and he FINDS that some Parasitic Organisms are Really Horrific in HOW they Procreate, such as Wasps and Beetles that will Implant their Eggs etc inside another Organism to Procreate...... this is Basically what the FACE HUGGER does.

For me.... IF the Xenomorph is the Perfect Survivalist then you should NOT be Limited to the ONE method of Procreation, and WHY CANT we have Multiple Avenues to get to a Egg Laying Variant (Queen).

With AVPR we saw the Pred-Alien which introduced another Method of Procreation, and THIS Method that Replaces the Face Hugger is the MOST EFFICIENT method of Procreation we have seen in the Franchise.

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KattozillaGodzilla (Toho) NewsGodzilla Ultima (2021) Singular Point S.H. MonsterArts figure revealed!

no matter how hard i've tried to steer away from looking at this incarnation due to spoilers, it's been inescapable. i give up.

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumHappy Birthday ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR 2

 I'm thinking of installing AVP2, just need to figure out how to get it to work with Windows 10. I wished the AVP movies and later Alien and Predator movies would have incorporated the ideas of AVP2/Primal Hunt.

The Empress was my favorite rendition of the Queen Alien since she was basically the Queen among Queens. I also loved the idea of the Praetorians, queen-like guardian xenomorphs that mature from common xenomorph in case any of the Queens were killed off.

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

MonsterZero

....sigh. The point of this article was the coexistence of Eggmorphing with Queen, not replace the Queen with Eggmorphing.

Also even if the Eggmorphed bodies were part of neural network it still would be inefficient then a Queen; since the Queen is far less vulnerable then a stationary pod of neurons that requires constant protection.

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

What if Eggmorphing is more than a reproduction device? That it also assimilates the knowledge of the victim?

Instead of creating just a face-hugger,  the core of the pod holds the neurons of its victim. These pods remain networked with other pods linked to a giant hive brain that creates a telepathic field. This field attracts more victims and creates a larger network and strengthens the field.

This networked Giant Brain Mass works out the weaknesses of the victim's homeworld. Creating species hybrids to help with the process.

 

Rewrite ALIENS to use Eggmorphing and not the queen:

 

Ripley finds the colonist of Hadleys hope tied together in various eggmorphing stages. Bishop notes their heads are tied together with strands of biomass...these strands lead to a large empty chrysalis!

She calls Gorman to warn him that they may have bigger problems! 

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

@MonsterZero
I don't know, Eggmorphing sounds very insectoid too me so I don't see why people don't have a problem with it but have beef with the equally insectoid queen?

Also Eggmorphing as a main method for reproduction is inefficient compared to the Queen

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

 

 

I think eggmorphing is so much cooler....So much more Alieny. Bizzare.

The queen system is very natural and Earthlike. It's how you would expect animals/bugs to reproduce.

 

I think they should get along just fine.

Whatever fits the story.

 

 

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumControversial Topic: Can Eggmorphing and Queenmorphing and Royal Facehuggers coexist?

"WIPE OUT the Inhabitants with the Xenomorph and then they DIE .."

 

Okay, that makes sense. Wait a couple of years and move in without having to worry about xenomorphs.

I think this is the way they should go.

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumMy Thoughts on including Destroyah in the MonsterVerse.

MechaGhidorah
 
I disagree. Honestly mechaGhidorah isn’t that cool for me. Seriously it’s even weaker than Ghidorah himself. I think it’s dumb. But that’s me

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