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(SPOILERS) 5 things in Godzilla vs Kong.

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Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-04-2019 7:46 PM

What are the five things you all really want to see in Godzilla vs Kong? 

For me it goes as follows.

1.) More character development with Kyle chandler and Millie Bobbie Brown's characters, their family dynamic seems interesting.

2.) Set piece in Japan, I would love to see a big fight in Japan on the big screen.

3.) More of the 17 kaiju we are told about in KOTM

4.) A clear winner between Godzilla and Kong (preferably Godzilla wins) but none are killed.

5.) More world building with monarch and the hollow earth explorations.

 

Let me know what your top five things you want to see in Godzilla vs Kong are!

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The Realist

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 5:24 AM

I only need 1 thing... Godzilla victorious.

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 6:14 AM

I hadn't thought about it too much, but yours are good. I guess to add some variety I'd like to see:

1.) Bear McCreary returning to score the movie with more of TOHO's original tracks, especially some from 1962's KvG.

2.) Kong, Godzilla, and a tree. I don't care what they do with it, I just want that callback.

3.) More new military technology, I'm curious to see what they've cooked up since KoTM.

4.) It's a longshot, but some more TOHO kaiju would be awesome. I'll take more new ones instead, just give them some screen time.

5.) This is more a response to your 4th point. As much as I would love them to stick to their guns and just pick an outright winner, I don't quite see it happening(though I guess Civil War pulled it off mostly). However the more I think about it, the more I'm actually rooting for there to be a surprise big bad at the end of the movie(But like an actual surprise, not totally spoiled in the trailers like Fire Godzilla). Why, you ask? For the very obvious reason that a King Kong/Godzilla team up is something we've never seen before, and would be one of the most epic things ever put to film.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 6:51 AM

@Gomi: Ninja Monster

these are going to be responses to your wants.

1.) McCreary would be great to have back, the soundtrack in this movie is amazing! Incorporating the classic themes into a new and more modern soundtrack. Probably one of my favorite soundtracks, it would be great to have him return. I would also like to see Giacchino or Zimmer take a crack at it.

2.) I love seeing Kong use trees in fights, like that scene in K:SI, i would also like to see it in GvK

3.) This would be cool, but I don't think that GvK will be set very far in the future, there may not be too much new stuff

4.) Yeah, that concept art of Monsterverse Gigan got me hyped, I would love to see more TOHO kaiju as well.

5.) Yeah, I can surely agree. I would love for Godzilla and Kong to have to team up, it would be something that we have not seen before, and it would be amazing. What i mean by a clear winner is like a Batman v Superman situation, where one has the upper hand, but something happens that prevents them from finishing it. I would hate to see one get killed, and it would be bad for the future of the Monsterverse (Kong and Godzilla are the biggest pulls, it would be stupid to kill one of them).

Mr. Movie

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 7:33 AM

1. I would love to see Godzilla and Kong go at it on Skull Island. 

2. I would love to see a post credit scene with a new monster for a new movie.

3. They both to survive. 

4. To be all about the monsters.

5. See more of the hollow earth.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 7:54 AM

Mr. Movie those are some good ones, pretty similar to mine.

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 8:29 AM

1) King Kong gaining lightning powers (preferably absorbing the red lightning seen in the storm that surrounds skull island so that kong and godzilla will have different coloured powers when they fight)

2) more of the 17 titans (especially leviathan AKA Nessie)

3) (this one is very specific but...) every movie with kong has to have him either do his jaw snapping finishing move or some variation/play on it so I'm hoping that in GVK we see either Kong attempt to break godzillas jaw only to be blasted in the face with atomic breath or godzilla uses his atomic breath in close range and kong grabs and closes godzillas jaws to stop the atomic attack

4) a really great reason for them to fight, I don't want either of them to be mind controlled or to be portrayed as just a villain, the audience should be able to empathise with both of them and understand why both monsters believes it is necessary for them to battle

5) (the same thing we all want) a definitive winner, neither needs to die, they can team up in the movie but I really want to see one be defeated, similar to Ghidorah defeating Godzilla in their first encounter in KOTM, neither died but Ghidorah beat godzilla, I would like for something like that if legendary wants to team them up or doesn't want to kill either of them  

Gmkgoji

MemberRodanJun-05-2019 8:52 AM

I want

1. Fire Godzilla again

2. Rodan having screen time

3. Rodan not dying

4. Godzilla beating Kong, without death

5. More titans

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Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:00 AM

SaibaShinrei

You have some great points! I'll respond to them.

1.) I don't know how i feel about the lightning powers, they gave Ghidorah lightning powers in KOTM instead of his gravity beams, and i feel like it may seem repetitive, and a little unfitting for the Monsterverse's Kong, but it would be cool to see nonetheless.

2.) Yeah, the kaiju out of the 17 i really want to see are leviathan and Titanus Typhon seems pretty cool.

3.) Yeah, like that one part in K:SI when he is fighting the skull crawler and tries to break its jaws. It is a signature move for Kong so it makes sense why you would want it.

4.) Yeah! I really hope they don't just see each and fight for no reason, i want to understand why they are fighting.

5.) and yeah, i don't want either to die, but i want a winner. I also do really want a team up, Godzilla and Kong teaming up to fight a bigger bad is something that has never been seen before, and would be awesome to see.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:01 AM

GmkGoji.

It would be nice to have Rodan and maybe even Mothra get some screentime somehow!

Godzillatheking123

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:11 AM

I just hope the producers don't listen to the critics and make the human characters the core of the story...

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:21 AM

@Skubyrustis

3.) Hadn't thought of that, I guess it probably would be set only a year after KotM. Then again, that news article in the credits about Titan waste as a super fuel could be hinting at some rapid technological advancements, we'll just have to wait and see.

5.) I'd say one can even straight up win before the team up, they just don't have to kill them for it to count. Like Mothra Vs Rodan where there's an obvious winner but no casualty as a result. The original didn't kill either monster at the end, I assume this one won't as well, that would be a surefire way to get fans really steamed.

 

Towards the lightning powers SaibaShinrei mentioned, I think I'm in the camp that wants that to happen(it was in the original after all), but I also can't really see a way to organically integrate that into the story without it feeling like a repeat of Fire Godzilla's origin. I do like the mental picture of Kong's fur crackling with electricity though, maybe they'll figure it out.

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 9:27 AM

Skubyrustis

just a little sidenote about the ghidorah having lightning powers thing, in the monarch sciences site and in interviews and stuff they call Ghidorahs lightning as "Gravity Beams" (I'm not saying you're wrong btw, you are right it is clearly lightning but they call them gravity beams for some weird reason without showing any gravity like abilities)

in older movies I had always speculated that his gravity beams resembled lightning but were in fact beams of super intense gravity, this explains how buildings are crushed by his gravity beams since lightning doesn't crush buildings

I just found it weird that they didn't do something like that in the new movie

also I agree, I would love to see them team up, both of them are so cool and powerful on their own so I'd love to see the damage they could do together

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:30 AM

@Godzillatheking123

They already finished filming Godzilla vs Kong before the critics reviewed KOTM, unless they do major reshoots, the critics have no say in this upcoming movie.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:32 AM

Gomi: Ninja Master

Yeah, I am in the exact same boat when it comes to Kong having lightning abilities.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 9:36 AM

@SaibaShinrei 

I had no idea they still called it Gravity Beams, that is strange, considering the fact that electricity powers up his abilities (as seen when he bites the electrical grid thing in the final battle at Boston)

I do think it would be awesome to see Kong with lightning powers, but I don't know if I actually see it happening, guess we'll just have to wait and see!

YeOldFossil

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 10:18 AM

Kong don’t need no lighting powers. I always thought that was stupid. I would like to see Kong shock Godzilla or throw him into a huge electric grid as a callback to the old movie. Giving Kong lighting powers out of nowhere just feels like the directors don’t believe in him or are too lazy to actually figure out a reasonable way Kong can beat Godzilla.

Krzypj

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 11:31 AM

 It just really needs a clear winner Godzilla. Movie can be terrible or great don't care, just as long as Godzilla is the clear winner.

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 12:27 PM

YeOldFossil

the way I describe him getting his powers stops it from seeming out of nowhere, there is red lightning surrounding skull island, the fact that it's red makes it seem unnatural so as I watched the movie I expected Kong to harness it and show off his lightning powers in the movie but he never did, what he did do though was reference the original Kong vs Godzilla and King Kong escapes several times throughout the movie which made me think the red lightning was there to set up him travelling from skull island through the storm where he would absorb it like a lightning rod before battling godzilla

and if Godzilla was to become fire godzilla in GVK like he did in KOTM or if he can reach burning state then Kongs speed, agility and intelligence wouldn't be enough to stand up to godzilla especially with his hair making him flammable, that is where his lightning powers would be essential to his survival against godzilla

he might not have lightning powers in the monsterverse but I think they make him more interesting as a kaiju and based on what we've seen so far I wouldn't be surprised if he did have those powers 

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 1:28 PM

@SaibaShinrei

...That would actually be a really cool way for him to get his lightning powers, I'm already visualizing the scene in my head and it would be epic. Mayhap as an added element his fight with Godzilla drags him off Skull island and into the storm system, and when the human characters watching finally catch sight of them on the other side Kong is swinging with red electricity sparking off his fur every time he lands a hit. That way we'd have an awesome visual without him getting too much of an actual power up.

I don't think the G-man should get to go Fire Godzilla though, it would mean they'd have to kill Mothra again for him to get it and that wouldn't be doing any favors to her track record of dying all the time. Plus blue and red is a much more dynamic contrast than red and orange.

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 1:49 PM

Gomi: Ninja Monster

agreed on the fire godzilla thing, I don't think he'd actually become fire godzilla two movies in a row either, I was just using it as an example of the level of power that godzilla can achieve that would make Kong no match for him and why giving him some form of lightning based power would help make the fight more of an even match since I can't really imagine Godzilla wouldn't give it his all against a rival alpha and when godzilla gives it his all kongs intelligence, speed and agility wouldn't really make all that much of a difference, that little bit of extra damage dealing ability would make a big difference, he'd combine speed, agility, intelligence and raw power 

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 1:53 PM

skubyrustis

yeah the gravity beams thing is super weird since it seems to just be electrical powers, makes me wonder why they even call it gravity beams

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 8:13 PM

@SaibaShinrei

Agreed. Then again, if Kong can even bring Godzilla to a stalemate just by his own ingenuity I think that would more than justify not giving him a power boost. The premise of the original was brains vs brawn, if they really lean into that I can see it being epic with or without lightning fists.

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-05-2019 8:13 PM

@SaibaShinrei

Because Gravity Beams sounds cooler than Lightning beams(which according to Wikizilla actually was an alternate name in the Showa era). Plus, did the original's ever really do anything gravity-related? Not till the Final Wars version if I recall correctly.

husky8

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2019 10:23 PM

They will seriously have to downsize Godzilla to see a tree in his hand!

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-06-2019 4:11 AM

@husky8

Not really, actually. Most pine trees grow to about 150 feet tall, and sometimes as tall as 260ft. Redwoods average out at 300ft, only 93ft shorter than Godzilla, so length isn't a problem. Sure it will act more like a spear than the club from Kong: Skull Island, but I'm sure they'll figure out something for Kong to do with it.

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-06-2019 8:11 AM

@Gomi: Ninja Monster

I 100% agree, it should be brains vs brawn, I would never want Kong to have lightning powers that would make him powerful enough to just beat and zap Godzilla to death, I would still expect him to be weaker than Godzilla, it would just give him another weapon that he can use to his advantage when needed or he could utilise strategically, I wouldn't want it to be enough to defeat godzilla alone

as for the gravity beams, no they were never really shown to do anything gravity related in the showa films but being that they were called Gravity beams I drew the conclusion that the implication of them is that they are beams of intense super high gravity that did impact damage rather than true electrical damage, you see his beams crush buildings which lighting wouldn't do so I assumed they were literally beams of focused gravity, whether that was really the intent or not, I am not sure but I was surprised they didn't do something like that in the new movie since they continue to call his beams Gravity beams 

SaibaShinrei

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-06-2019 8:13 AM

Gomi: Ninja Monster

MemberBaragonJun-06-2019 7:43 PM

@SaibaShinrei

Yep, that's epic, I'm on board.

CarnoRex15

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-07-2019 3:22 AM

I just hope we see something about Mothra or Rodan.

            "Queen of the Monsters"

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-07-2019 5:28 AM

CarnoRex15 me too, I hope some of the other monsters make a return in GvK, like Scylla, Behemoth, Mothra, and Rodan.

I also really want to see more of the 17 other kaiju, like Leviathan (which is probably similar to The Loch Ness Monster) and others.

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