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Ridley Scott will direct Alien Covenant Sequel

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setaverde

MemberFacehuggerMay-27-2019 6:31 PM

Here's the link to the Variety's magazine article:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/alien-40-anniverary-ridley-scott-1203223989/

This part of the article intrigued me:

 

<<“Alien” made $105 million worldwide back in 1979 — the adjusted gross is $283.5 million — and spawned therefore sequels, two crossovers with the “Predator” franchise, and two prequels, 2012’s “Prometheus” and 2017’s “Alien: Covenant,” both directed by Scott. A third prequel, which he will direct, is in the script phase.>>

 

 

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BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-27-2019 7:26 PM

I think its a waiting Game.... i am surprised nothing was teased on Alien Day, if they are under work on something.

I think Once Work is underway/finished and certainly during Press Interviews for his Raised by Wolves TV Series, i think by then if he is working on a Alien Covenant Sequel we should then get some more Light on the Subject.

The last we heard about any Sequel Officially, was that they are working on one, and they have the Script being Written/Near Finished (Certainly as far as Basics) for the Sequel.  With RS talking about the Project being something that would NOT be about the Xenomorph but about AI and what Kind of World it is that David would Create/Build.

He also said that where ever David is off too, there would be 3-4 incoming Parties of which ONE would be the Engineers who return to Planet 4 and Discovery what has been done and would be looking for the Culprit.  He also at Interviews around this time, suggested that he felt there could be 5-6 Sequels and if given the Chance he would like to take the Franchise to War of the Worlds Territory.

But with the Disappointment of Alien Covenant and impending Disney Take Over (inc Bids from Comcast)  the Prequels had been placed on HOLD.

These latest interviews/articles seem to hint that RS is working on a AC2, and the other one from the other day brings up about how RS feels you have to do something different, and not repeat the same thing over and over, and so you have to Evolve the Beast and introduce different Procreation and not rely on Nostelgia.

This matches what he had said just after the Release of Alien Covenant, where then he said you could go a Few More rounds with the Beast but you have to EVOLVE him, the Franchise has to be about HIM.

But one of the last things he said about the Franchise a number of Months back, was that he felt he was ahead of the Game/Curve with Prometheus and appeared to not be so impressed with the Xenomorph direction.

I think its a case of a Waiting Game..... surely once Raised by Wolves and Merlin are done, maybe RS would talk about the Future of the Alien Franchise/Prequels... we shall have to wait and see.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

setaverde

MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2019 8:53 AM

BigDave, i think it's going to happen relatively soon (2 yearS). Ridley Scott has to be fast, because he has 82 yearS old. Alien is his masterpiece and Prometheus, alien covenant, the new alien film and alien 1979 are his legacy. He Gave priority to alien covenant instead of Blade Runner 2049, being ONLY an executive producer. Well, he was more than that, but he didn't want to direct it. In the new alien movie, is Simple. He has to give much more time on screen to the engineers. I want to watch their space ships travelling in space. The first 20/30 minutes have to be the engineers arriving, or not, to origae 6. I would love to watch the Deacon, captured on planet 4, used like a weapon by the engineers. How is the chain of commmand of the engineers?  I want to see a  magnificent army of engineers. 

I hope that David creates a circus of horrors. More than One Queen, lots of  Queens,vicious beasts that inject, inside the host, small eggs of completely formed xenomorphs that grow in a Blink of an eye. This new monsters are more intelligent and hard to kill

ignorantGuy

MemberChestbursterMay-28-2019 10:33 AM

setaverde did you notice that the sequel is in the scripting phase which was since Alien Covenant according to Scott himself? Why do you think It will be released in 2 years?

And what you what is so expensive that I wonder why would anybody take such a gamble judging by the movie going trends.

setaverde

MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2019 1:06 PM

IgnorantGuy, What can i say? It's a non mathematical forecast of mine, but it's more than a feeling. I think that  more than Two yearS could be too late for Ridley Scott, but we never know. The "break even" profit of Alien covenant froze it for a while, but it's a good movie, even though has its flaws. Prometheus has lots of potential and people want to watch engineers on the big screen. 20th Century Fox was misconducted by some fans and we hadn't Prometheus 2, paradise Lost. Now, after the combined reassessment between Ridley Scott and Disney, we can return to a story that resembles with Prometheus 2, keeping always in mind David's closure.

Ridley Scott is a Legend in the art of directing, he is the author of alien 1979 and that's important for Disney.

 

 

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-28-2019 4:54 PM

I think Ridley Scott was VERY passionate about the Prequels, as indeed he decided to Direct a Prometheus Sequel, instead of a Blade Runner One.

I think RS wanted to expand beyond Xenomorphs in the Franchise, but with Alien Covenant, it kind of limited this Scope as its Expected to be about Xenomorphs now, but it seems even as of Alien Covenant we see RS had some Big Plans to even go past 2-3 more Prequels.

We have to wonder what his War of the Worlds comment was about, but in part it was maybe a tongue in cheek comments towards FOX, suggesting that RS felt that he could really take the Franchise Places that would span Beyond a few Movies.

His Age could be a Problem, you can be sure that as he had taken his Final Shot during Shooting for Alien Covenant, that he would have been Hopeful to push out 1-2 more Movies within 5 Years after wrapping up on Alien Covenant.

so had things gone to plan and say Alien Covenant made $350-400M instead of $240M at the Box Office, then its likely we would have had a Sequel THIS Year with another in 2-3 years...

The Disappointment of Alien Covenant both Financially and Critically and the Take Over Talks, really placed a Sequel in LIMBO!

Micheal Fassbenders AGE is also a concern, because the Longer any Sequels that will Feature him take to be made, the Harder it would be for him to pull off being a 35 Year Old Looking Humanoid... 

So ideally i bet RS thought that after Alien Covenant they would be making another TWO movies over a say 5 year Period.... but NOW we are in Limbo.

I would assume IF they had plans to release another Movie in the next 2 years then ALIEN DAY 2019 would have seen them Tease Something... 

I dont really see anything Concrete at the Moment, surely the Plans was there, FOX was considering a TV Series but Ridley Scott and  Emma Watts wanted to carry on with the Prequels.... and it seems things had began to happen as far as Ideas and Plans...  

But it seems Production was not close, in part due to the Impending Take Over, so it will be a Waiting Game to see when Disney decide to Green Light any Alien Movie.

Disney own the Franchise, the Franchise makes Money from NOT only Movies, and they can make Money from these other Formats in the Mean Time...

So they would not be in any Rush..... which the longer its left the less likely or harder it would be to Cover David.

This is not a Problem for Blomkamps Alien 5, as if this was to not be made until 5 years Time, as they just have his Alien 3 Reboot set 30 Years after ALIENS... as opposed to 20 years after as Blomkamp had intended.

I have a feeling that the NEXT movie we will see would be a Blomkamp/Cameron one be it a Reboot of Alien 3 or just using his ideas in a NEW Alien Movie. (No Ripley etc).  As i think Disney would see this as a SAFE BET.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-28-2019 5:03 PM

"we can return to a story that resembles with Prometheus 2, keeping always in mind David's closure."

I think this would be HARD... because a we are on a Prequel Route to ALIEN, it seems the Plan is to drive us to ALIEN and show the Events of HOW/WHEN it is David's Xenomorphs end up on the Derelict.... which means its Expected to be about Xenomorphs, and anything that does-not be about them too much, could be a Distraction.

Going the Route of Alien Covenant to bring back the Xenomorph and give the Answers, has Cursed/Shackled the Prometheus Franchise, its now expected to be about the Xenomorph.

A Alien Covenant 2 that has as much Xenomorph/Answers as Prometheus could be Risky... if this Bombs, then how do they then make a Sequel that would lead to the Xenomorph and those Eggs in ALIEN?

So any sequel would have to touch upon the Xenomorph to at least the extent that Alien Covenant had done, i feel any less could potentially put fans who want Xenomorphs off, and its those Fans who make them the $$$$

In Hindsight we should have done a Prometheus Sequel that would go back to LV-223 and be more Alieny but could have New Monsters, but give more clues to Alien to appease the Fans.

Then a Alternative Sequel could have gone off to a VERY FAR place with David and Dr Shaw and not be Shackled down to the ALIEN Franchise.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

DinosaurRaghhh

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2019 12:02 AM

Ridley still seems way too obsessed without AI to make this a success.  Maybe he is enacting his own hopes of being made immortal via robotics and can’t see the wood for the trees....

DinosaurRaghhh

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2019 12:02 AM

Can’t see...

DinosaurRaghhh

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2019 12:02 AM

Can’t see...

dk

MemberTrilobiteMay-29-2019 12:17 AM

. i am surprised nothing was teased on Alien Day, if they are under work on something.

I remember RS posting he waned Indies to scare him on 4/26 with the IGN supported shorts. It was hard to imagine he wasn't fishing for at least a vibe from the Alien crowd. 

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-29-2019 1:27 AM

He certainly has Ambition to do a Sequel, IF they (Disney) came up to him and said, "right we want to do a Alien Movie, it may be a Prequel or it may be a Alien movie set after Alien, and we want you on board".

I think Ridley Scott would jump at the chance, he would likely say "ok i will work on a Alien Movie as long is IF it is a success i can Finish off my Prequels next".

I think he is very inspired by the Fans Love for the Franchise and was Flattered by that High School Play of ALIEN.  It would be interesting to see if he watched the Anthology Shorts and what he thinks about them.

@DinosaurRaghhh

I think he is interested in such themes, such as Blade Runner, and i think some people seem to look at AI in a Narrow way as in ROBOTS...  but the Term Applies to Creating Life in a Artificial way that has some Intelligence to it.

so in that context the Xenomorph could be AI, the Replicants are AI, and the Prometheus Engineers could be AI.

Ridley Scott is a Fan of these themes as well as others from Prometheus, because he felt the Franchise could expand beyond the Xenomorph, and expanding on the Engineers you could cover more than just a Race who only deal with Xenomorphs.

You can bet that Alien Covenant was not the route RS would have likely wanted the sequel to Prometheus to go, but the Studio felt we needed to give the Xenomorph Origins and bring the Beast Back..... and so RS had decided (maybe) to bring in some of the AI elements and Prometheus Themes in context to David and the Xenomorph.

In Hindsight ONE of TWO things should of happened.

*Prometheus should have had more Clues to the Xenomorph and had some more Action/Monster Scenes like the Neomorph from Alien Covenant rather than just Zombie Fifield and a Deacon that we dont see what happens next.

Then enough may have been done to make the Xenomorph connection LESS ambiguous and with some Xenomorph like Monster Scenes the Fans would have been more Happy and then a Sequel could STEER away from Alien, as in a different Franchise (not about Xenomorphs) Prometheus then could have Closed the Door to Alien, then gone off and done something different in sequels.

OR

*They should have done a TWO Alternative Sequels to Prometheus, the First being a Mission to LV-223 which would take a more Alieny Movie that would have Xenomorph related Monsters, offer more Clues to the Xenomorph/Derelict and LV-223 Outbreak and Experiments and thus Close the Door to Alien

The Second being where David and Dr Shaw would be heading (Engineers Home-world) and have them go FAR FAR FAR away and NOT right on the Door-step to LV-426.  Where Ridley Scott would have Freedom to offer a Alternative Franchise that is NOT about the Xenomorph.

But ALAS... Hindsight is a Wonderful thing.. but something that cant change the Past!

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphMay-29-2019 7:27 AM

"A third prequel, which he will direct, is in the script phase."

They do not tell us where that came from where they say that they are about to write another prequel so I am not sure about that. Variety is a magazine, I would like to hear from some official channel before I take that as a fact. Do not believe in everything that you read. We will have to wait and see and get info from better place than that.

I do not care about what kind of world that David would create because I do not want a movie about him. AC was about David and his journey and it flopped so why risk money on another movie about the same character? From a money and profit point of view it just seems bad to do so. Hopefully we have seen the last part of the robot thing so we can put that aside. Either make good/well-written human characters or stop it

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-29-2019 5:34 PM

I think you raise a Good Concern that many do...

When you look at ALIEN (apart from Human Characters) it was about the ALIEN Monster those Eggs, and then to Ponder what the HELL that Pilot was doing with those Eggs, who was HE? where did he come FROM? Why did he have those EGGS? where did the Xenomorph come FROM?

To have all those things pushed aside to be about David is a Distraction that Displeases most Fans, i think you can try and FIX it but now we are in DIRECT PREQUEL Territory Fans are going to want to know HOW/WHEN/WHY those Eggs get on the Derelict, and HOW the Eggs came to be and WHY the Space Jockey would have them.

And Most Fans would HOPE its nothing to do with David.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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