
dk
MemberTrilobiteNov-03-2017 1:24 PMEvolving the Universe is a theme heard in the videos. Since it seems Mr. Scott may have lost the passion, it makes a strong case to evolve the universe by allowing the franchise to branch into offshoot Netflix style shows. One might be action heavy with monsters while another might be more "cerebral" or philosophical. Different camps of the fan base could be pacified.

joylitt
MemberNeomorphNov-03-2017 1:50 PMThe alien is embedded in the pop culture. I don't understand how you can turn your back on that.

dk
MemberTrilobiteNov-03-2017 1:54 PMIt has to stay fresh though- otherwise it could become a characiture of itself.
It is tough to be scared of this after all.

Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianNov-03-2017 2:23 PMIt is disappointing to hear the commercial consideration in Ridley Scott's decision but it does take money to make films. These are "Alien" films and I'm sure we will always see some version of it alongside any new storyline expanding on AI, Earth, or whatever.

joylitt
MemberNeomorphNov-03-2017 2:57 PMI think it is a selfish attitude to say the monster "has almost run out". It is like he wants to bury it thus preventing other directors to keep on digging into the mythology of the xenomorph. I would say the beast is cooked only because Ridley Scott rendered it superfluous in Alien Covenant.

BigDave
MemberDeaconNov-04-2017 9:12 AMBit busy now.... so this reply from other thread, will fit well with these other threads..
I think RS had a Original Vision, that would have covered the Xenomorph and then allowed us to move on past this and explore the Engineers, but FOX felt the Engineers was more interesting and the Xeno had been done to death and something New was needed.
Prometheus appeared to be setting us up to move away from the Xenomorph and Alien... but again it appeared once again FOX Panicked and Felt in Hindsight they should have covered the Xenomorph and so they changed the plans again.
Now that this never went down well....( Alien Covenant)
It appears RS seems to be suggesting in Hindsight indeed the Xenomorph is cooked, and something Fresh Needs doing, yet the Fans expected these NEW Alien Prequels to Lead to ALIEN.
They have Written themselves into another more Tighter Corner now..
The Problem was not the Xenomorph, it was how it was handled, the movie sadly tried to cover a lot of bases, tried to please Prometheus fans, but had desecrated a lot of it... it tried to please Alien Fans but some parts desecrated that... and it simply never had the Action or Queens and Ripleys to please the Fanboys.
I would think the sticking Problems for AC are..
*for some section of Fans, it did not cover the Engineers enough, and the Engineers shown failed to live up to the expectations of those beings we saw in Prometheus.
*some fans hoped for some of Shaws Questions to be Answered.
*Alien Fans, the New Design (Chest Burster) and Gestation/Growth Rate are a conflict to the Alien Lore...
*The Basis now that David Created the Xenomorph and the story is about him, is something that has split fans more so than the Space Jockey being Giant Humanoids (not so Giant)
*The movie Bigged it up to be a Horror and many fans expected a Alien like Vibe to it, but got rushed ALIEN like Scene near the end, and disappointing changes to Lore.
*The ALIENS Fans was expecting a more Ripley Character and Action, and Sadly the Neomorph attack Scenes and Daniels Shooting the Xenomorph failed to give anything near Aliens Action.
I dont think they can now just Drop the Xenomorph, and concentrate on David... i think this is not the case at all, they wont give us a ALIEN AWAKENING and not have any Xenomorph connections.. they cant have the ALIEN Prefix without it as Fans associate the Name with the Xenomorph and Ripley and not Engineers and David
But i dont think it does not have to be all about the Xenomorph.
STAR WARS: The Force Awakens was about the Force, and leading to a Awakening in the Force and so a Set up for a Sequel (The Last Jedi) that would cover the Jedi and Force more.
The Force Awakens, thus did not have as much about the Force or Jedis as the Phantom Menace... And i think ALIEN AWAKENING will deal with the Xenomorph like SW: Force Awakens did with the Jedi/Force.
Leading up to another movie that will show us the Classic Xenomorph Eggs and Derelict Event...
Alien Awakening as far as AI/David and the Company Agenda will be more like the Rebuilding of the EMPIRE (Weyland) into the NEW ORDER (Weyland-Yutani) and reveal AI is running the Show, much like SNOKE is in the Star Wards new sequels.
The FORCE could be our Xenomorph Weapon and the Last Jedi could well be the Hiearchy of those Engineers, who will be out to stop who ever destroyed Paradise/Planet 4
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Barf The Mog
MemberFacehuggerNov-05-2017 9:51 AMSadly, Ridley Scott is making business movies rather than making films. Alien was a film, and for a director who got a late start in his career, he should refer back to his early days for the AC follow up.
Personally, Scott's films, post-Alien and Blade Runner are rather dull, and Covenant was a massive disappointment, especially in the third act.
If he decides to remove the Xeno from the main spotlight, then he needs to keep using Giger's aesthetic in the next film. The only reason Alien worked was because of Giger.