Blade Runner 2049 opens in China and Japan

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ignorantGuy

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 8:56 AM

Well it opened and it bombed. In China, it made 7.6 mil (3 times less than Alien:Covenant) and 2.7 mil (1 more than Ac) in Japan, from start making 224 mil worldwide with a budget of more then 150 mil. (numbers from http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Blade-Runner-2049#tab=international).

Would it now make commercial sense to continue towards AI-related stuff? Or why do you think things happened as such?

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Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 9:13 AM

Blade Runner is a niche cult classic, with the sequel being 3-hours long and not filled with your typical fanfare, it's no surprise really.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

ignorantGuy

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 9:24 AM

Lawrence of Arabia

Niche ? I don't know it man, it single-handedly invented cyber-punk as a genre. And you think your precious David's budget won't be affected by these results?

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 9:33 AM

red0guy

You're right, Blade Runner is very influential within pop culture but ask any casual movie watcher what it is and you'll be surprised how many don't even know of it's existence or watched it. Also, am I sensing hostility? lol 

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

ignorantGuy

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 9:35 AM

Lawrence of Arabia

It's just the Persian sun :P

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 9:40 AM

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"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Ati

Member2KOct-31-2017 11:07 AM

Lawrence of Arabia - I see you have a new true friend for a long journey. :DDDDDDD

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 11:16 AM

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Ati

Member2KOct-31-2017 11:33 AM

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 11:40 AM

Ati XD

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"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Ati

Member2KOct-31-2017 11:49 AM

Lawrence of Arabia - :DDDDDDDDDDD

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 2:36 PM

And of all movies, it was "Geostorm" the movie to beat "Blade Runner: 2049" in its debut, making 4 times as much. Crazy.

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 2:42 PM

Very bad news for movies in general. But if as a byproduct of this debacle we get an Alien movie that is not all about A.I. I won't complain. Ridley said there would be news about the AC sequel "in two weeks" in an interview posted here. It's been a month already and we haven't heard anything.

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 3:00 PM

joylitt

Geostorm beat Blade Runner? Sad world we live in where sophisticated storytelling is passed up for explosions :(

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

cuponator3000

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 3:54 PM

A.I. in Sci-Fi will definitely keep pushing forward. I mean, with all the technology and social issues now, the climate is rife with stories to tell. Unfortunate that BR 2049 did so horribly. I saw it twice and the second time, it just clicked and I really like it. Still, Lawrence of Arabia is correct, with it's prequel's original box-office/critical reaction, runtime, pacing, style, and marketing it just was not set up for success. 

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joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 4:07 PM

Lawrence of Arabia 33 million vs 7.6 million in the 1st week for both films in China. It seems "Blade Runner: 2049" is going to end up losing money. I read in the news its underperformance in the US caused AMC stocks to fall.

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 4:16 PM

joylitt That really blows man, hard :( Blade Runner 2049 deserved so much more than this as it was such a great sequel.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 4:19 PM

cuponator3000 Eureka. Well your observation is on point. Generally people are in negation or don't want to get "entertained" by a movie about something that affects them directly. That was the case with Geostorm bombing in the US (blame Hurricane Harvey and Irma). The AI theme is also very ubiquitous nowadays even though I don't think humanity will be so dumb to allow a rogue AI to emerge and destroy or enslave us. If people was eager to watch AI theme movies, Transcendence, Morgan, Artificial Intelligence, Termination Salvation, Terminator Genisys, Blade Runner: 2049 would have been box office successes. Roboapocalyse, once a Spielberg project is stuck in development hell. And we are going to have a new test for an AI centered movie at the beginning on 2018, which I am sure is going to be a big flop.

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 4:31 PM

joylitt Sci-fi films that aren't about cute animals or filled with jokes sadly nowadays get passed up, though, I don't think that studios should stop pushing them for those who aren't so easily entertained. They may not always be box office hits, and I know studios are about that buck, but I'm glad real sci-fi is still given the chance as high-profile properties and is prevalent these days. It sucks when it becomes art vs commerce.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Ingeniero

Member2KOct-31-2017 5:18 PM

Can we assume Blade Runner: 2049 will be a success in Blu-Ray sales? 

I know I'll buy both together in a set. I have my original Blade Runner DVD and could use an upgrade.

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Ingeniero

Member2KOct-31-2017 5:29 PM

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joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 6:01 PM

I think Spielberg's prediction of a movie industry implosion is close to come true. He said he thinks soon they will start to charge high prices for big superhero movies and cheaper prices for serious movies. I assume it would be the same for different type of sci-fi films.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steven-spielberg-predicts-implosion-film-567604

I.Raptus

Moderator2KOct-31-2017 7:24 PM

Sad news for Sci-Fi as a movie genre. Call me crazy but I think the future of Sci-Fi is in TV series on platforms like Netflix, look at shows like The Expanse and The 100 going great-guns!

And let's face it, can you really tell a rich, deep and engaging Sci-fi story in a 2-3 window strategically produced to accommodate those with small attention spans.

Let cinema have their 2 hour explosion-fests and allow sci-fi series to delve and explore much much deeper into their worlds!

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 8:10 PM

Lawrence of Arabia Yeah, you are right. Specially about humor, fast paced action etc. That is the trend right now, and that is why some DC universe fans are dismayed Joss Wheadon is taking over their beloved franchises. But once upon a time darkness and Christopher Nolan ruled. So maybe this is just a cycle.

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 8:14 PM

IRaptus Precisely. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon an other non traditional studios are coming up with very good productions. The last "Stranger Things" season let me down a little bit but I just discovered "Mindhunter" from David Fincher and the second season of "Channel Zero" is pretty awesome (I recommend you check it out, very original and scary sci fi)

ignorantGuy

MemberContributorOct-31-2017 8:37 PM

joylitt

"Stranger Things" season 2 was the third disappointment of the year for me after King David's movie  and BR2049. And going back to your prediction, I think that big budgeted sci-fi might altogether disappear. And i don't think that it would be a bad thing necessarily as things like BR2049 ripping off Her and Children of Men (inspired by the original BR)  won't happen anymore.

IRaptus

Talking about tv, i hated that Star Trek Discovery ripped off Alien, Dune and Groundhog Day. Where is the originality there.

But the Expanse now there is some good stuff, but it's script is adapted from a book.

My conclusion is that Hollywood script writers are totally awful in producing a good sci-fi story without adapting one from a book. Let's Annihilation will be good.

 

joylitt

MemberRespectedOct-31-2017 9:09 PM

red0guy To me "Blade Runner: 2049" was not a disappointment at all. The only bits I did not like were Jared Leto's over the top lines. It is a movie so strong visually that you can forgive the flaws. I re-watched "Her" and I found that the treatment of the AI element was very different. And "BR:2049" is light years ahead of Alien Covenant on every level.

I.Raptus

Moderator2KOct-31-2017 9:12 PM

joylitt I've heard about Mindhunter, but haven't seen it yet. I didn't know it was a Fincher project, Ill definitely check it out now, and Channel Zero scary sci-fi sounds good too. 

Thank you kindly :) 

 

red0guy yeah agreed, that seems to be a big problem with tv series. Easy to become clones of something, become stagnant and predictable, or go totally off the rails like Lost....(although I did enjoy Lost I will admit) if not produced and managed well. 

Some like Falling Skies get a bit of an ego with their success and then try too hard to be cool, and move away from what made them good to begin with.

SuperAlien

MemberConversationalistOct-31-2017 11:29 PM

The box office numbers begin to tell more about the audience quality than about the movie quality. Same as with the ****ty tv programs with a huge popularity among the masses.

 

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

ignorantGuy

MemberContributorNov-01-2017 12:16 AM

 daliens

Let's not be snobs here, the situation is more complex and there is a general lack of new ideas in today writers and the lack of willingness to branch out.

dk

MemberLegendNov-01-2017 12:38 AM

Agree with IRaptus.

That said, don't forget how 2001 A Space Odyssey was ground breaking and 2010 didn't get rave reviews. 

We have discussed the Series angle before. The talent is out there. It seems to be about funding and getting the word out. Here is a 12 minute example about how episodic content can go. An off shoot of Half Life 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ45ELH8Db8

 

 

 

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