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The path to paradise begins in hell

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dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 7:29 PM

Does this imply it eventually ends at Paradise?

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ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-03-2017 7:31 PM

Possibly,First the Inferno,then Purgatorio,and at last Paradise.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 7:34 PM

Oh yes- Dante.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-03-2017 7:47 PM

I wonder if this is the idea for the sequels

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 7:56 PM

It could be in a skewed way since we all know what happens with Alien.

suwhited

MemberFacehuggerMar-03-2017 7:57 PM

The Protomorph sure looked mad as hell...

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-03-2017 7:58 PM

Think it's like the Devil Suwhited?

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 8:07 PM

nin- the Devine Comedy concept is interesting. What would you think reaching paradise in this series would be? All I can think of is dying before things get even worse.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-03-2017 8:15 PM

Im not sure.I think of Shaw wanting to meet her gods,first she went through hell,the journey to paradise might be purgatory you know caught in between,then she reaches Paradise.Now we have the Covenant journeying to Paradise,but it turns out to be hell.A sequel could but space set(purgatory)and the final one could be Paradise.Then we might finally have our answers.Tough to say though,but it does seem possible.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 8:24 PM

Interesting. Maybe somehow in a strange way Shaw reaches paradise by getting the "answer"? I had not considered that.

suwhited

MemberFacehuggerMar-03-2017 8:25 PM

@nin

LOL. It sure ain't an angel...

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-03-2017 8:25 PM

I'm going to look a little Divine Comedy.I think this warrants further research.

 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-03-2017 8:57 PM

nin

I think I might start with this and see where it goes.

Ignore. It is a silent film. I will need to look around more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS4We4MDheg

 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-04-2017 2:45 AM

One thing I've learned so far is about Dante and Beatrice.Beatrice is Dante's beloved,he used to admire her from afar.David's feelings for Shaw in Prometheus is somewhat similarities.The time i watched it with my mother,she observed that David seemed obsessed with Shaw.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-04-2017 2:45 AM

Double post 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-04-2017 3:04 AM

Purgatorio is of particular interest.There are various themes on love and destruction.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-04-2017 3:18 AM

Also mankind being punished for there lack of love for god.If we look at the engineers as  our gods than it seems pretty clear that we may be punished by no longer worshipping them.There's also the possible idea of a human civilization on "Paradise" that may have been destroyed for the same reasons.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

BigDave

MemberDeaconMar-04-2017 6:44 AM

I would say this place is Paradise... but since some conflict it has now become Hell....  be it a ancient event or at the hands of David.

The Engineer said he came from this place, i have no reason to think David would go any other place apart from where they came from.... but we cant be sure if the Engineer was one of those beings on Paradise, or if they was a different caste who was supposed to Watch over those beings on Paradise.

If we look at this movie being based around that Temple/Cathedral as the Seat of Power in this movie.. the Throne Room if you would.

If Paradise is now Hell, this would make that City Pandemonium

As far as another Human Civilization on Paradise, this is what the Source i had was pointing towards, well teasing.. but never directly confirming.... which i had posted a long time ago and also debated often since.

The Set Visit leaks and comments by Ridley to them do seem to completely add up to what the Source had hinted at...

Included..

*Paradise is more like the Main Outpost and Cradle of Creation within our Galaxy

*The Engineers/Hierarchy have created Life like ours on more than Earth.

*Mankind as of now is like 4th or 5th Generation, there have been previous ones.  And we should not look at us Evolving from Apes and those Generations to Mankind.. but that Engineers fit into this instead.

*Mankind has been to that System before.. (i think they meant Zeta 2 but could have meant Paradise).

*Biblical Events like Punishments from God such as the Flood and others are events that have actually happened within the context to the Plot but not necessarily to Mankind on Earth.

*Hierarchy above the Engineers, can manipulate Worlds and Environments to cause massive changes which include not only Floods, Ice Ages or Seismic/Volcanic Activity but also serve Storms and Lighting that can prove to be Powerful Tools..  The Hierarchy use these to Terra-form Worlds but also to wipe the slate clean.

*Engineers are not the Gods, they serve a greater power and purpose...

*The plot was about creation, rebellion and how creations wants to overthrow creator and then sub-create and repeat.

*This process does not Start with the Engineers and does not End with David and has multiple levels.

*Engineers (LV-223) are more like David, and there is a Horrific Agenda behind their creation and also Mankind.

*Mankind has more of a role in the Xenomorph than Engineers.

*Paradise is the Cradle of Creation and like Garden of Eden but we need to not look at Heaven, Hell and Paradise like in the Bible, where Paradise and the Garden of Eden are places on Earth... in context to the Franchise this is not the case.. but loosely yes Paradise is where the Garden of Eden was only its the World David is off to and not a place on Earth.

*Paradise does not look like LV-223, its more like Ancient Mankinds Mesopotamia and also has some other Ancient Cultures Aesthetic too... includes Greek/Egyptian

*Paradise is a Jungle/Forest World some 3X larger than Earth and is supposed to be like the Lush Garden of Eden and Mesopotamia  and is located about 600LY away near the Constellation of Ophiuchus

I think that would do now, as far as to relate to the so called Prometheus 2 Plot...

These points can all be verified on this site and by Chris and a few others and was information passed on here/to them from March 2015 to July 2015 and some i had hold back i let slip from September to December 2016

And i put these few points (there was many more) as i feel they connect to this Topic... it seems maybe this source is correct as the since the last trailer, and then Set Visit reports and Ridleys comments seem to back up those points i made above.

 

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chli

MemberChestbursterMar-04-2017 8:29 AM

The quote “The Path to Paradise begins in Hell” could be interpreted in many different ways. It could mean that The Covenant has to answer the distress signal and therefore make a detour into Hell (after which they can continue to their destination - Paradise). Another way of looking at it could be that they (David) find something on the planet which lead them on to finding Paradise (the/another engineer homeworld), in other words - a sequel?

As for the references to Dante, I made a small exposition of it in the topic “Abandon all hope ye who enter here”.

Shasta cyclone

MemberFacehuggerMar-04-2017 8:40 AM

Has anyone brought up that in the prologue of prometheus could be the birth of paradise in alien covenant?.......bigdave.

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