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How will multiple directors effect the trilogy?

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MemberMothra LarvaeJun-04-2016 11:00 PM

I haven't seen a topic for this yet so hey why not. How can multiple directors effect the films and their quality? 

Now, with Godzilla 2014 coming out and being directed by Gareth and him dropping out, they will obviously need a new director for the next film. Now films do switch directors films to films time to time but how can this effect Godzilla if each movie has a different director. 

Now first off there is no guarantee that each film will have a different director. But their is no guarantee that the directors will know anything about Godzilla and his legacy either. What scares me is if the next directors base their work off of 2014, we will never see this Godzilla's full potential. Also on top of that, how would this effect characters like King Ghidorah and Rodan. Also do you think a director that knew nothing would let King Kong kick Godzilla's ass and even beat him?

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ModeratorGiganJun-05-2016 6:58 AM

I highly doubt any director will be going the 2014 route with Godzilla's screentime, highly doub it considering the backlash it got.

Good grief.

Chris

AdminSpaceGodzillaJun-05-2016 8:58 AM

Not necessarily due to the backlash I imagine, but the direction they're taking for the sequel. They're introducing 3 iconic Monsters as well as Godzilla's return. Then they fight. Unless it's 4 hours long, I see about 50% of the film being focused primarily on the Monsters themselves and not so much the human drama. Though both elements are essential.

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AdminGodzillaJun-05-2016 9:37 AM

I'm sensing the phrase "soft reboot" from Godzilla 2. Before anyone over-reacts at those two words, hear me out.

Soft reboots don't necessarily mean ignoring a previous movie or the canon established. It typically means shifting focus with tone and vision a little--Not enough to not connect it with a previous film, but tweak it. X-Men sort of did it with X-Men: First Class, Harvey Bennett saved the Star Trek franchise by doing it with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The new Doctor Who series that started in 2005 was a soft reboot that still connected to the original series.

I think, in order to fit in with the three picture vision of Kong: Skull Island, Godzilla 2 and Godzilla vs. Kong, the next Legendary Godzilla will see a similar atmospheric shift. Having a new director to fit the movie in to this "trilogy" is probably for the best.

Enough time will have passed for such a shift to be bought. Audiences should easily realign themselves to a new vision since there will have been a 5 year gap.

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MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2016 1:28 PM

@Gorilla my question wasn't referring to screentime in particular. It was more referring to what will happy to Godzilla and the other characters in the series. Will Godzilla breath never meet its full potential? Will King Kong kill Godzilla since the director doesn't know about Godzilla? Will missiles hurt him now since the directors will see the Golden Gate Bridge scene and think it hurts him? Things like that I'm asking like how will the films having different directors that may not know about Godzilla and have only seen Godzilla (2014) effect the trilogy. 

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

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MemberBaragonJun-05-2016 5:30 PM

Even before Gareth left it seemed like Legendary wanted Kong Skull Island Godzilla 2, and Godzilla vs Kong to be the trilogy and seemed like they would be more closely linked with G2014 being the outlier of the 4.

 

I think how it effects the movie depends on what director they get. Could the director make Godzilla die to missiles? Yes, but highly doubt it, they'll likely get someone at least somewhat familiar with the franchise. They saw how it worked in 98 when they didn't.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-05-2016 8:53 PM

High Flyers,
Whoever gets the job will be fully briefed and brought up to speed on the intentions that both Legendary and Edwards had with Godzilla '14 and what their vision is moving forward.

There are far more pressing things to worry about over, "Will missiles hurt him now since the directors will see the Golden Gate Bridge scene and think it hurts him?" Concerns like this are silly since the director can simply ask about that scene or someone will likely correct him.

You seem to think the director will have the power to do whatever he wants with the character. Not true. Toho has rules that Legendary must abide and Legendary has a vision for the franchise that the director must abide by.

It's also highly unlikely that the same director who does Godzilla 2 will direct Godzilla vs. Kong since the movies are currently slated 14 months apart.

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MemberMothra LarvaeJun-05-2016 10:44 PM

No, those were silly examples for Gorilla lol. I'm sure Legendary and Toho wouldn't let that happen. I'm trying to figure out with what kind of freedom the director will have what will he do to the character and the franchise.

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

GG

ModeratorGiganJun-06-2016 6:52 AM

I don't think any director is going to "nerf" Godzilla. I mean they have to have saw how fans reacted to scenes such as the Golden Gate Bridge and his atomic breath not really harming the MUTO as much as it should have.

For that I am certain, Flyers, he will be made most likely much more powerful in the films to come.

Good grief.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-06-2016 9:36 AM

The only thing that can be said with absolute certainty is that whoever the director is will have to conform to Legendary/Tull's vision of the planned cinematic universe.

This is more of a producer's franchise now--Especially with Edwards' gone. I'm sure whatever director is chosen will put his light, stylistic spin on the look of the movie, but I wouldn't expect him to have much or any power in regard to how Godzilla's character is affected. Legendary's mostly tied up by Toho's rules on how to portray anyway.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

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MemberAnguirusJan-08-2017 5:22 AM

On the note of directors, it's all been said above that the effects are going to be minimum, the only difference really is going to be the film-making and directing actually, not the vision of Godzilla-Kong going forward. If I had to make a list of directors who would be best:

1. Guillermo Del Toro

Good work with Pacific Rim, and has had success with other movies like Crimson Peak as well. Has a taste for kaiju like Gareth did, and is probably on Legendary's list.

2. Steven Spielberg

One of the best film-makers of all time, has had success with similar movies before (Jurassic Park, Jaws).

3. Christopher Nolan

My favourite one, I don't think Nolan has ever made a 'bad' film, and his Dark Knight Trilogy was the inspiration for many newer, darker films we see today, even Gareth Edwards said he found slight inspiration for the new Godzilla by seeing Nolan's Batman work. Nolan is undoubtedly an extraordinary film-maker, and you are guaranteed to have a masterpiece with him at the helm. Legendary will definitely brief him about everything and what they want, he is sure to make it alot better.

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJan-08-2017 8:29 AM

Wow, old thread.

I've said before that Spielberg and Nolan won't touch Godzilla with a 10 foot pole. They're too big and too expensive, they don't need the work and they're clearly more interested in their own passion projects to give a damn about a producer driven series of movies like Godzilla/Kong--Or even Marvel for that matter.

Del Toro is certainly the most realistic out of that list, but he's moved on from Pacific Rim for a reason at this point and I don't see him taking over Godzilla. Although, for some reason, I do see him as the go-to man Godzilla vs. Kong--But I again I feel like that's a long shot.

We need to remember the kind of directors Legendary typically hires--Like Gareth Edwards, Duncan Jones and Jordan Vogt-Roberts. They like going after smaller, less known affordable directors that they feel are rising talents.

I think the names that are most likely to direct (that we know of) that we should consider seriously are:

Guillermo del Toro (A long shot, but Legendary has worked with him twice now)
Jordan Vogt-Roberts (Director of Skull Island. If Legendary likes the movie he may get offered the job.)
Duncan Jones (Who I would love. He already said he won't direct it, but who knows. Money may talk.)
Zhang Yimou (Another long shot. He's directed Great Wall for Legendary and Godzilla will need a Chinese element to sell well in China. It could be great!)
Steven S. DeKnight (Who is directing Pacific Rim: Uprising and has already shown interest in the Godzilla and Gamera series on twitter. If Legendary likes the new Pacific Rim, he could be tapped as well.)
Michael Dougherty (Who is writing the script currently and directed Trick r Treat for Legendary.)
Matt Reeves (Who may be getting too big at this point after his massive success with the last Planet of the Apes. But his connection to Cloverfield might keep him on the radar. He's never worked for Legendary however.)

Anyway I think these are names, or at least the type of names, we need to be looking out for. Big names like Nolan, Spielberg, Abrams, Cameron, etc... are just unrealistic.

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MemberGiganJan-08-2017 9:32 AM

Regarding the screentime, Godzilla wasn't in it (2014) that much to keep him as a mysterious entity.  Now there's nothing to hide, I think he'll have much more screentime

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJan-08-2017 10:57 AM

^I actually have some words from the inside that Godzilla's screen time was actually reduced by executives saying his presence needed to be scaled back.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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