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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteAug-04-2012 8:37 AM
Everyone else seems to be doing it, so here is my take on the sequel to Prometheus.
Firstly instead of one overdrawn plot the sequel should have three plots running in unison, one of which is confined to this sequel, the other two of which would carry over into another sequel. The first standalone storyline of the sequel...
[center][u]The USCSS Pandora[/u][/center]
2097, Zeta II Reticuli, LV-223.
The USCSS Pandora, a Yutani Corporation vessel has been ordered by the ICC to investigate the true fate of the USCSS Prometheus which failed to return home when scheduled (21/01/2095). After a nine month flight time the Pandora approaches LV-223 before its resident AI, MU-TH-UR, awakens the crew, composed of military and scientific personnel. After briefly having breakfast and getting to know the crew the Pandora sets down on Lv-223 landing infront of wreckage of the crashed Juggernaut and Vickers' lifeboat.
A list of events I would imagine happening in this storyline...
- The crew of the Pandora activating the Orrery, discovering a moon in the same system they are in, flashing red in the Orreries holographic display (LV-426's beacon).
- The Deacon aboard the Juggernaut, abducting a crew-member of the Pandora and turning them into an egg, hatching from within - a Royal Facehugger (A La Alien 3).
- The crew of the Pandora uncovering that the Engineers have been using the Alien/Xenomorph for thousands of years to harvest genetic material from the children they sired throughout the galaxy millions of years ago.
Now to the storylines that would carry on into the third film...
[center][u]Corporate Entanglement[/u][/center]
2097, Weyland Corporation Towers, London, Earth.
A group of Japanese businessmen/women arrive in the foyer, are silently greeted and enter an elevator. They exit the elevator into a vast boardroom overlooking london. Looking out of the window at the far end of the boardroom with their back to the camera is the current CEO of Weyland Corp. They do greet there Japanese guests.
A Weyland employee motions the Japanese representatives to take their seats, an old, well dressed Japanese man (Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa) sits in the end seat directly opposite the unknown Weyland CEO, whom is still looking out the window, their hands held behind their back. Once the Japanese guests are seated the windows become tinted and the room brightens. The Weyland CEO, their face unseen sits in their leather chair opposite the old Japanese man, slides their chair towards the table and places their hands, held together on the desk. Camera moves up to reveal Meredith Vickers (Charlize Theron) as she welcomes her guest "Greetings, Mr. Yutani."
The scenes of this storyline would play out like a corporate game of poker, ultimately leading to the merger of the two companies by the end of the third and final Prometheus movies. These scenes be scarce and scattered throughout the movie, underlining certain aspects of the storyline of the other two storylines. In total these scenes would make up very little screen time in total (15-20 minutes maximum).
[center][u]Questions[/u][/center]
A Juggernaut craft slows to a stop approaching a vast nebula. Inside an elephantine humanoid figure seated inside a vast cannon shaped chair reaches to the panel before them at the base of the cannon like structure, pressing small rubbery globes, before pressing similar globes on a panel beside them on the seats side. With a hiss the features of the elephantine creature unfold, retract revealing itself to be a suit covering its pilot... David.
David climbs out of the huge chair, and walks through the corridors of the craft whistling before appraoching a Weyland Corporation hyper-sleep pod wired up to a pulsating tower deep within the craft.
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After awkening from hyper-sleep Shaw joins David as he returns to the seat and pilots the Juggernaut through the nebula. Breaking through the swirling clouds and raging thunderstorms of the nebula the Juggernaut is greated with an epic view, almost beyond comprehension...
Adjacent to the centre of the nebula, and sucking the material from it is a vast piece of rotating cylindrical machinery. The material being extracted from the nebula is being fed into a second device comprised of multiple spinning rings, spinng around each and creating an intense magnetic field shaping and squeezing the material from the nebula into an artificial sun.
Extending out from the cylindrical device are long biomechanical tentacles, slowly spinning around the artificial star, below the end of each tentacle a long rod extending into spinning atificial planets, their natural looking surfaces concealing the biomechanical workings beneath the crust. Some planets still in a state of construction.
Below the artificial sun of this vast biomechinal orrery is a long spire reaching downwards, sheilded from the heat of the star above it by a vast cup of metal. Attached to the spire are hundreds, if not thousands of Juggernauts, each with its arms wrapped around the long spire.
This storyline would obviously be Shaw and David meeting the Engineers and their elders, seeking the answers to Shaws, and ultimately the audiences questions. Ideally the natural of the answers would only be partial, with the grand reveal of the Engineers goals being revealed in the third movie of the trilogy.
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Solaris
MemberOvomorphAug-04-2012 9:46 AMThese are some great ideas, man. But I feel that the filmmakers when working on projects with big ideas do not get sidetracked and realize that a successful movie has to have a audience friendly dramatic structure and genre convention or story trajectory. If it is a mystery, which mystery need to get solved at the end? If it is an action movie, you need to create a strong villain to overcome in the end and remember you need to blow up something good at the climax, so make sure you have a red matter, a nuclear device, or a combustible something in the story. If it is a love story, you need a carefully developed character tension etc etc. PROMETEHUS starts well establishing ideas, tension, parameters but in the end, I think the filmmakers are unsure whether it is a horror, action or some other. ALIEN has some very provocative themes of procreation, body invasion, corporate abuse, human contact with alien species - all are big ideas. But the movie takes the form of a slasher flick actually. As such it performs excellently.

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Co-AdminMemberOvomorphAug-04-2012 10:43 AMGreat ideas here Snorkelbottom, really enjoyed the read.
I completely agree with the three plots running simultaneously... would help core out a lot of story! (just hope it doesn't become a huge mess in the end.)
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MemberOvomorphAug-04-2012 2:23 PMSnork, Love it, the heck with those Hollywood dorks... I really like your ideas...
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shambs
MemberOvomorphAug-04-2012 11:57 PM@Snorkelbottom,
Now I'd wish that you are part of the FOX staff, your ideas are great, complete and well explained; and certainly there is enough material for a trilogy, and not only in the case of engineers. The corporate history is as interesting and worth telling.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteAug-15-2012 6:14 AMFurther to the ideas in the OP and various other threads I have started in the recent and not so recent past ([url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7023]The Secrets Of The Black Liquid Revealed[/url] and [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4713]Derelict/Juggernaut - Seductive Intergalactic Predator[/url]) here's some more ideas for Prometheus 2: Paradise, and the third as yet unknown movie in this trilogy.
[center][u]The USCSS Pandora - Continued[/u][/center]
Fleshing out the following point...
- The crew of the Pandora activating the Orrery, discovering a moon in the same system they are in, flashing red in the Orreries holographic display (LV-426's beacon).
...Selecting the flashing beacon on the holographic display the crew replay the visual recording being sent from the derelict Engineer craft on LV-426...
A holographic pilot appears in the large canon-chair as a klaxon is heard. The holographic pilot is seen hurriedly pressing buttons as his suit unravels from him and he steps out of the chair before approaching a moon displayed in the holographic Orrery - LV-223. The holographic Engineer checks the moon, a flashing red beacon emitting from it before circling around his cannon chair. Looking down, forward and to his right as, the platform a holographic representation of smoke is seen rising. The holographic Engineer quickly jumps into the chair, a holographic Facehugger leaping up and attaches itself to the Engineers face, as his helmet closes.
A glitch jump in the recording (to present a skip forward) before showing the Engineer groggily in the chair pressing buttons before he is seen flinching in pain before a chestburster erupts from his chest, ending the holographic playback.
[center][u]Questions - Continued[/u][/center]
Shaw and David learn that the Engineers are unable to reproduce...
Rather than build their spacecrafts, as they once did (the saucer shape craft at the start of Prometheus) the Engineers bio-mechanically engineered the females of their race into living, propagating vessels (the Juggernauts), with the intention that a male would be bound within the canon-chair and become not only the pilot of the female craft, but also biologically and symbiotically connected to the vessel, with the vessel extracting key "fluids" from the pilot, which were used to create offspring - Male Engineers or Female Juggernauts. But in time the Juggernauts stopped producing Male Engineers, only producing more Juggernauts.
To ensure that Male Engineers continued to evolve with fresh input of genetic code the Engineers visited the worlds on which they had seeded life, inviting their children (us and others on other worlds) to meet them once they had developed the means to, at which the Engineers approached their children requesting female "tributes" which they would evolve to match their own stage of evolution and mate with, saving themselves from extinction. But their children races refused.
Unable to afford the loss of life a war against their children races would cost them, the Engineers devised means by which to take what they needed - fresh genetic material, which they could apply to clones of Male Engineers, and thus created the Xenomorph. Deployed in urns, with the eggs collected after successful eradication to be processed and then studied/destroyed.
...upon learning all of this (probably throughout the two films) Shaw offers the Engineers her eggs, so that they can evolve them, fertilize them with Engineer sperm and produce many, many humanoid male and humanoid female Engineers. Shaw offers this on the condition that the Engineers destroy all specimens of the Xenomorph, in any form and refrain from attacking Earth. The deal is made and honoured.
However, unknown to Shaw was that as a side effect of having consummated with Holloway before his death, she to will share his fate, the same fate as the Sacrificial Engineer at the beginning of Prometheus. Once alerted to her bodies imminent breakdown Shaw is transoprted by the Engineers to a fledgling world, Shaw seeding life upon the planet using her genetic template.

BigDave
MemberDeaconAug-27-2012 11:15 AMSome bizarre and nice ideas Snorky.
I am not sure which way the movie would go, i am kind of thinking that either mankind was created by a fraction of Engineers without the consent of the actual true creators who created the Engineers and Elders.
Thus the Elder/Engineer Race being the Prometheus....
I also think that this caused a war where the Engineers rebel against either Elders or other factions or what ever the true creators are on the Home World and the Xeno was a Weapon that the Engineers wanted to use in the Civil War with their own kind on the Homeworld or the creators.
Ridley did say that Prometheus 2 would further away from the Xeno and events of Prometheus and it would be following what Shaw and David find on their mission to locate the Home World of the Engineer race.
This leaves the Deacon out of the equation which itself is related to the Xeno.
I would assume that a Prometheus 3 could follow the outcome of LV 223 after Prometheus and also finally fill in the gaps and connect the movies to Alien.
How this would be done is any ones guess.
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