Time Travel Possibility in Plot

im totally against time travels in movies ..it create a series of plot holes without solutions ( like in the otherwise excellent Source Code ) ..so i hope they will avoid it

Let's not forget, Lindeolf used time travel in the reboot of Star trek, so it is a possibility that he might sneak this in here as well.

i think ridley will relate ONLY with Alien not with other movies or theories of other people

I already started a thread over a month ago with a supposed plot line that hints at time travel. PROMETHEUS CAST Elizabeth Shaw...Noomi Rapace Rayden Holloway...Logan Marshall-Green Meredith Vickers...Charlize Theron David 4.0...Michael Fassbender Jeremiah Janek...Idris Elba Theo Zedmore...Guy Pearce Logan...Ben Foster...not true anymore Ravel...Benedict Wong Chance...Emun Elliot Mudow...Kate Dickie Yuri...Rafe Spall Aldrich...Frank Kelly Francis...Sean Harris Siena...Tal Berkovich Lettap...James Payton Tembrook...Tuppence Middleton Earth. The beginnings of our world. In an opening montage, we watch as our primordial planet is terraformed and bioformed by seemingly all-powerful, Godlike alien entities…the ENGINEERS. The seeds of life are introduced to Earth for the first time by these fantastic extra-terrestrials, who have the power to create and manipulate both mechanical and biological matter at will. The montage ends as the earliest genetic recipe for life is sent forth from the Engineers’ massive, towering CITADEL in the dark desert. The desolate desert of Africa: 2085. The prehistoric ruins of the Engineers’ Citadel is discovered by a corporate construction team tasked with building a nuclear-powered comm-array in the wilderness. Amidst the ancient remains are found highly advanced, biomechanical relics with are determined to be of extra-terrestrial origin. This catches the attention of the mega-conglomerate WEYLAND-YUTANI CORPOTATION, who finances a massive archaeological excavation of the citadel in the hopes of reverse-engineering the alien biotech for financial gain. Running the operation is MEREDITH VICKERS, a cold, calculating corporate executive, who recruits intelligent and independent astrophysicist DR. ELIZABETH SHAW to head up the research team. Assisting Dr. Shaw are xenoarchaeologist DR. THEO ZEDMORE and her fellow astrophysicist DR. LOGAN. Shaw uncovers the secret of the citadel when she discovers a chamber of star charts, which seem to lead the way to the home planet of the Engineers. Also uncovered is evidence suggesting that the Engineers had a database of all life on Earth, and may even have been responsible for its creation including Man. In a partially-submerged MANHATTAN, Vickers meets with Dr. Shaw and an OPO, (Off-Planet-Officer), CAPTAIN JERAMIAH JANEK, and plans a space mission following the discovered star charts in an effort to find and make first contact with the Engineers. For the scientists and explorers onboard, it will be a journey of discovery, but for Vickers, it’s merely a way of obtaining new technology so that Weyland-Yutani may retain the lead in the competitive race to establish colonies off-world. The depths of space: 2090. A highly-advanced, top-of-the-line ISRV (Interstellar Research Vessel) PROMETHEUS decelerates as it reaches its target solar system. The vessel’s crew emerges from their cryo-chambers. Along with Elizabeth Shaw, Theo Zedmore, Logan, Meredith Vickers, and Captain Janek, the crew of the Prometheus is comprised of: First Officer MUDOW, Security Officer RAYDEN HOLLOWAY, Navigator CHANCE, Helm Officer RAVEL, Operations Android DAVID 4.0, Political Officer ALDRICH, Medical Officer FRANCIS, Engineer YURI, and Technical Officers SIENA, LETTUP, and TEMBROOK. The crew gets acclimated to their removal from cryo-sleep, their muscles in atrophy from five years without use. Holloway assists Shaw in her physical therapy exercises. The crew prepares for arrival at the home planet of the Engineers. Shaw and Holloway are instantly attracted to each other, initiating a romantic relationship. However, as they enter the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, Prometheus encounters a massive disturbance which hadn’t appeared on scanners, one even more powerful than a black hole: a wormhole in space. Prometheus is sucked into the wormhole, and after a harrowing ride, emerges on the other end. The ship crashes on a barren planet, which the damaged computer system identifies as the mission’s final destination. The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw’s team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis. Investigating the urns, David discovers that they contain the genetic material for thousands of species within a viscous liquid called BIOFORMER which can rewrite any living organism on a cellular level. Basically, possession of the substance gives its owner the power to create life. Vickers interacts with David and seemingly innocently leads to the Bioformer infecting David through a cut in his finger. Within the depths of the Temple, we find several living Engineers who discover the transgression of the Humans, and remotely rewrite the stolen Bioformer to make it into a weapon. The Engineers capture Holloway and run a number of horrific experiments on him, injecting him with the Bioformer and allowing him to return to the vessel. Subsequently, the crew of the Prometheus begins to fall victim to the now weaponized substance, as the “carrier” Holloway injects Ravel, Zedmore, Francis, Siena, Lettup, and Tembrook. The victims begin to lose their humanity and slowly transform, experiencing nightmarish visions and hallucinations and making pilgrimages to the depths of the Temple to receive instructions from the Bio-Brain. Holloway, in particular, is resistant to the transformation, fighting against the alien influence with his feelings for Shaw and his responsibilities as security officer. Meanwhile, David finds that the Bioformer is making him into a biological being…making him Human. The crew also finds that their trip through the wormhole took them back hundreds of millions of years and they are actually stranded on primordial Earth, having moved through space and time. Eventually, as alien influence and the continued lurking presence of the Engineers becomes clear, the crew of the Prometheus turns on each other as the infected human victims fully mutate into PROTOFORMS: vicious, skeletal alien monstrosities which proceed to assault the unaffected Human crew through the halls of the Prometheus. Mudow, Logan, Chance, Aldrich, Yuri, and Janek end up being destroyed by the Protoforms. In a strange, erotic ceremony, the Protoforms seemingly mate with the Bio-Brain and each other to create thousands of EGGS, the first of a new generation of the monsters. Meredith Vickers is revealed to be a sleeper CONSTRUCT of the Engineers, who are still active in their far future and Shaw’s present due to the time-travelling abilities of the wormhole. Vickers was grown in an Engineer lab but escaped, fleeing to Earth while always wanting to her find creators and take their power. The Engineers activate Vickers’ secondary GENE PROGRAMMING, and she transforms into an ALPHA PROTOFORM: the STAR BEAST. At last, the two remaining crew members, Elizabeth Shaw and David, seek to confront the Engineers in the Temple. The Godlike entities prove to be utterly evil, and David sacrifices himself as he’s dissolved in the LIFE SEED BIOFORMER which is the basic genetic recipe for MAN: the former android David, it turns out, is the basis for all Mankind. Shaw is captured by Holloway, but he regains enough of his humanity to remotely activate an Engineer vessel for Shaw’s escape, then holds the other Protoforms and Engineers at bay. As Shaw escapes, she finds herself in the midst of the initial Engineer terraforming of Earth which we had witnessed in the opening montage, chased by the former Meredith Vickers who is now the gigantic, horrific Star Beast. Shaw makes to her escape vessel which blasts off for the wormhole, Holloway fighting the Star Beast with both falling into the wormhole and disappearing. An Engineer PILOT detaches from the Temple in a FAMILIAR VESSEL and follows Shaw, but is lost in the wormhole. Shaw emerges above the Earth of her present day; however, she’s deemed insane and responsible for the loss of her expedition and confined to a psychiatric hospital by the Company. It’s implied that there are at least some of those who believe Shaw’s tale, but have silenced her as part of a cover-up. In the final scene, we see the vessel of the Engineer that was chasing Elizabeth Shaw emerge from the wormhole in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, still in the prehistoric past, and crash on a nearby planetoid, the Engineer Pilot helplessly lost and the EGGS in the ship’s cargo hold stirring as something alive moves from within… The Beginning

I didnt see it..but good theory as well...

A lot of sci-fi traditionally has been analogous to current issues, research and debates - so it wouldn't surprise me that the implications of time travel as researched at Cern wouldn't be considered. I'd like to think the intervention of the Nostromo has a little more backstory too - I feel the casting of Noomi has a purpose, personally I think there's a little resemblance to Ripley, and I'm beginning to wonder if there's some genetic connection involved...involving a twist in time would be very interesting...hmmmm...

Maybe relying on the point that the Direlect is a million years old hence Alien and whatever plot is in affect for Prometheus supports Scotts argument that this is not really a prequel but the last eight minutes has Alien DNA leading to Alien but not in sequence totally. Same Universe but a story of it's own. Who knows...it drives ya nuts trying to figure it out.

I don't think there is a gentetic relation between Noomie and Ripley. That's digging deep iMHO. I just think it's what Ridley wanted just like in AVP Reqium, the female Hero happened to have dark hair and be tough like Ripley. Its a way for us to familiarize our self with a character that worked for the first movie IMO. Then again, who knows with Scott. If he's reading these forums he has to be laughing at us sheep. lol

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@RHunter I think you got a kickass story there, I'd pay to see that flick. A lot of wild imagination goin' on there. And although I generally don't have much of an appetite for the blasphemous nature of un-deifying traditional understandings of mankind’s origins, I think you handled it well. It never ceases to astound me, how in our world, in which approximately 97.5% of it’s population claims to believe in some kind of god or all powerful creator…the media is ever trying to replace traditional beliefs in creation with surrogate ones. Somehow, ancient and traditional beliefs are ridiculous, primitive, unrealistic, and impossible…simply because they are ancient…or seem to be not inline with “Science”…which seems to be becoming the new god/religion. I try to be a person who is open minded enough to embrace the possibility of science and a supernatural creator coexisting in harmony, rather than pitted against each other. To me, the denial of the possibility of the divine…is well…not very scientific. Grand imagination is the seed science. Still, folks will look into the night sky…searching for answers, if only to settle on the stars themselves…rather than supernatural or celestial possibilities. They’ll swallow aliens over angels, and Space Jockey Engineers over a God. I related to the way Thor put it, in the recent film…when the Asgardian said: “You're ancestors called it magic, and you call it science. Well, I come from a place where they're one and the same thing." Anyways...I'll get off my soapbox now. Once again, yours was a very interesting and exciting story idea...and a cracklin' good yarn along the way. Peace, ~Neurion

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RHunter I think you hit the nail pretty well there. Nice one. I'd pay to see that too. If you read the info released over the past six months or so I think time travel appears here and there. Why introduce this if you are not going to use it to good effect. The idea that the jockeys use time travel makes sense otherwise they would never see the fruit of their toil. I also wondered how the ancient wreck on acheron fitted into the story. Scott has admitted the last few minutes would tie into Alien. This is how its done. Wormhole. I just cant buy the giant monsters and all that it's not Scott's style. Scott did hint at a gruesome movie so I do buy the transformation of crew into some sort of mutated bio beings just dont know how he's going to pull it off without looking ridiculus. Think of the deleted scene in Alien where the crew were being transformed.

Thats a scarily good plotline you got there RHunter!

~ Neurion, I couldn't have put it better about Science and Supernatural creator coexisting. I believe the same. One shouldnt try to cancel out the other. Why can't both exist. If the Spacejockeys were it, we'd be f%#€. That's an technogically advanced insane demonic uncivilized society. If that's all the human race had to look towards as a creator, I'd sooner settle for a bullet to the head than to even think meeting the Jockeys as our Maker. Might as well end it cuz your living in hell....an't no paradise, or go hide on a distant planet and pray the Jockeys won't drop their demon eggs down on it. That's like going to hell. There might be a flip side to the movie. Maybe there's good and bad Jockeys, why would a civilization capable of creation be so demonic and ruthless. "We create you then destroy you with the utmost horror". What an oxymoron. I figure as long as you never reach a level of equality your cool with the Jockeys or don't steal any Bio technology, then you have hell to pay. ~Micro Changes in air density, I like your time travel analogy. Fruit of their toil. Unless they live for a hefty length of time they wouldn't see the outcome of their creation. The only problem I have is I can see traveling in the past but the future...I don't know. IMHO, time passed may not be lost, but the future is the unpredictable unknown. The only beings I see traveling to the future is if they already are in the past traveling to an event in the present. It's only my opinion. I'm no scientist or physicist but I just can't fathom traveling forward vs. back. I can see traveling parallel in parallel Universes in what Physicist call String Theory. A parallel universe where you took a right in lifes descisions vs. a left, so in one universe you married the prom Queen and was the next Steve Jobs vs. being kicked in the sack when you asked her out ending up spending time on the Prometheus forums talking about a movie like the rest of us...lol

Quite frankly I do not see how time travel can ever be a part of any of this. Just my Opinion, not saying I do not like or admire the idea, just that IMO it 100% completely does not fit any of this. I also do not buy the argument in any way that time travel is/was even necessary at all, I completely disagree, they 100% could have developed faster technology. that's it that's all. Also, the "Substance" could not have been "weaponized" 30 years before Wayland Yutani decided they wanted it so...unless of course I am Dead Bang On The Money and Mankind has been Slaves the Growers for many many years...but even then...it does not seem plausible that the "goo" could have been weaponized already in lieu of ewhat transpires in all 4 Alien films...AFTER these events. Just my Opinion. I am a BIG BIG FAN of ALL CREATIVITY, and it is in fact a very creative idea, but I think with regard to this film franchise that idea of time travel should be carefully tempered.

Just in case nobody saw my identical response in the other almost identical thread: Or... the scene with the derelict ship crashing happens millions of years in the past and it is only a flashback to explain the chronological order of events in a short timeline. (Or here is a completely insane idea, what if there is more than one space jockey ship? You know like how us humans don't build just one 747) Why do people come up with ideas like this? Time travel? If that was the case they could do a better calculation in time jumpin, get that bitch up to 88mph, barrel down on that clock tower and keep the AVP films from being made... I'm a huge fan of the Alien franchise, but why some fanboys get extravagant ideas about "what might happen" in the film is beyond me. My guess is... YOU WON'T KNOW TILL THE FILM COMES OUT!!! It really won't kill you to wait till summer. Did you see those fireballs shooting down from the sky? What if Ryu from Street Fighter is in this film...? (read my blog to find out why this is probably true) /rant

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These are supposedly smart creatures/beings, right? If they have the ability to create, what is to stop them from having the ability to bend time or make use or worm holes to get to point B from A? From a writer standpoint, if used rightly, as we seen Lindholf use the technique in Star Trek, there is no telling what curve ball can be thrown into this film with the approval of Sir Scott.