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KattozillaJurassic World ForumFavorite Theropod?

Dromaeosaurs in general, Carnotaurus, and Albertosaurus

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumAn In Depth Analysis Godzilla vs Kong's Performance.

Maxxx17

He is such a perpetually muttering disgruntled toxic. Could you elaborate on this, I didn’t get this vibe at all. 

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ArkhamWrathPrometheus ForumPrometheus and Mission to Mars

I don't know why anyone of you debates over these two movies when it's clear as a sun... Ridley Scott copy a lot of things from MTTM to his Prometheus!

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Maxxx17Godzilla ForumAn In Depth Analysis Godzilla vs Kong's Performance.

In his new interpretation Kong traditionally closer to the human race has absolutely no appeal or charisma. He is such a perpetually muttering disgruntled toxic. Therefore the outcome of his battle with the rampaging Japanese foot-and-mouth disease becomes as uninteresting as possible. It's like watching a fight between drunks outside a convenience store from the sidelines. It's an epic movie attraction crawling a bit into Star Wars territory. The plot is only needed to strut the formidable crashing cyberpunk Hong Kong animation. At some point a third force intervenes in the conflict. Who with pathos proclaims his alphasamtsova. This does not cancel out the fact that watching such an abusive troika albeit pleasantly filmed in places in 2021 is simply boring. I watched it on 123movie in 3D effects but even those effects didn't really fix the situation. And I was left with only negative emotions after the movie.

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Maxxx17Godzilla Forumhow godzilla killed mechagodzilla and not kong

They didn't make this movie any clearer. I expected more. That they would kill each other.

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setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumComic Book Preview – Marvel Alien Issues

Other production of Marvel Comics (2021):

ALIENS AFTERMATH

FOR ALIENS’ 35TH ANNIVERSARY, A RETURN TO HADLEY’S HOPE! It’s been 35 years since the tragedy of the Hadley’s Hope colony, but what happened to that ill-fated venture has been shrouded in mystery. A renegade crew of investigative journalists are heading towards the moon that Weyland-Yutani has wiped from all records, and they’ll bring back the truth even if it kills them…and what remains in that bombed out site will try to do just that. Benjamin Percy and Dave Wachter imagine a terrifying possible future for LV-426 in this celebration of the 35th Anniversary of one of the most influential science fiction films of all time!

https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/93626/aliens_aftermath_2021_1

 

El riesco siempre vive.

 

 

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setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumComic Book Preview – Marvel Alien Issues

Marvel Alien #5 (THE ALPHA SHOWS UP):

Variant Cover of Marvel Alien #6:

Amazing!

A QUEEN THAT TURNS BEAUTY INTO HORROR.

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Gojira2020Jurassic World ForumFavorite Theropod?

Personally its probably the ceratosaurus or the baryonyx 

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Andy77Alien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Yeah. I understand that in 1979, they couldn't know what computers would look like in 2021, much less in the 22nd century. But to assume that soldiers destined to fight alien monsters (ok they didn't know what they were) would have the weapons they had in Aliens was shocking to me. I understand it's expensive to have exoskeletons in a movie. But maybe remotely controlled reconnaissance flying robots (aka today's drones) might have occurred to Cameron.
That bunch running around with rifles and grenade launchers is equipped to the level of the film's production. Like I said. Just replace the invaders with Vietnamese , Islamic State soldiers etc and it would be the same thing. By the way has anyone thought that if there were grizzly bears or tigers in that base they would be more dangerous than the "aliens"? Aliens is a tragic failure. But I understand that it's great for teenagers. But that was a really fun AvP. More imaginative.

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KattozillaGodzilla Forumwhich godzilla figure should i get

i know, i'm not the best a decisions as well. i usually go for an eeny meeny miny moe approach. but, i also sometimes try to think into the future to see which one i like best. try thinking hard about which figure you think you would be happy with best in the longrun

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MonsterZeroAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

"space bugs Vietnam it cant be"

 

Yeah the Vietnam war type soldiers was off-putting. I never once thought: "Wow! I'm in the 22nd century!" Everything out of their mouths is street jargon from the 1980's.  Gives it a popcorn movie feel ( for better or worse )

 

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MonsterZeroAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Xenotaris wrote: "alien fanfiction."

I'll probably do a script....And then some original music and drawings. I'll call it A L I E N  I I.             Have to find the time...

 

My Alien CRT tech homage, would be steampunk alternative history vibe....H.P. Lovecraft influenced. Think: CRT globes.

 

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SasquaDashGodzilla Forumwhich godzilla figure should i get

Depends on which design you like the best. Personally I prefer 1954, but like HinikunaGoji said, it's your decision. 

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Andy77Alien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

I don't want to go into too much detail. For me, there is only one Alien film and that is Alien 1979. Of course, I would have preferred it to have been made as it was originally intended. That is, with a pyramid where the germs were. Work by Giger. Explanatory info (hint) about the civilization of the Aliens. A film that would make the indestructibility of this creature clearer. When the fact that the flames from the spaceship's engines did not burn him is no longer enough for some people.  After all, the inspiration for indestructibility is the short story IXTL. And the film was supposed to end in Ripley's death. But it didnt happen so OMG no remake. 

Let whoever wants what they want. For me, all Aliens, Alien3 etc and Covenants and AvP are fun (not “Aliens”) but THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIEN. It is parasitism, including the Covenant. But what doesn't spoil my mood. For me, somebody can make ten more "Alien" films for me.

Alien King can fight with Kong, Godzilla, ressurected Ripley can fight Morlocks. Whatever. Worse than “Aliens” space bugs Vietnam it cant be. 

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla Forumwhich godzilla figure should i get

g-man fan

it’s really up to you. It’s your decision and I’d just make sure you have enough money to get what you want

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

These are some Concepts for Prometheus..... well Earlier Drafts.. the Pebble Ship was going to be a Juggernaught but they did have some other Ideas and so i think the Engineers/Space Jockey would maybe have a Variety of Ships but they would all have that Similar Aesthetic... which we also see with the Docking Ship in Alien Covenant.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPARADISE CITY

Various Stages of Concept inc from 2014 (Lower Image) seem to Indicate that the Potato Sack Look ;) really is what the Engineers go for....

The First Image TOP LEFT is more Ceremonial Importance but in Alien Covenant we see TWO of the Engineers in Similar.  The TOP MIDDLE Image is Different the Neck of the Engineers seems to be Similar to those from LV-223 and again there is ONE Engineer in Alien Covenant who appears to look Similar and is a more PALE Color with Longer Neck.

Again a LOT of this is to FIT with the Ancient Astronaut/Creators Plot. In Many of the Creation/God Mythos then the Gods look VERY HUMAN.. some they look Different (Indian/Hindu).   We came from them and Created in their Image and so YEAH i guess we LOOK like them...

Some Concepts for AC had indicated beings who look more like Ancient Greek People so we could have GOT that instead..... Lucky we Never.

so its like i had said, it seems the more LV-223 Looking Suits are just what the Engineers would Wear for Specific Tasks and so its NOT what they Wear on a Day to Day Basis...

The Prometheus Engineers did have a Different Skin Texture/Shine more like a Shark/Dolphin like look, but this was Mainly to do with the Pressure Suit they wore... The Sacrificial Engineer looked to have a more Marble Statue like Gloss about him.

So they look almost None-Organic... like Synthetic in their Skin, it think that the Direction they were going was that the Prometheus Guys are Genetically Engineered/Enhanced.

This Cross-Play look is what our Planet 4 Engineers (some) look like, the Difference to the Sacrificial Engineer really comes down to a more Professional Paint Job thats more Glossy... but also the Sacrificial Engineer was Enhanced with Prosthetic on his Body too

The Engineers in Prometheus also had Prosthetics for their Head too... but they could have GIVEN a more Glossy Paint to the Engineers Skin in AC and Contact Lenses to make them look more Close to those in Prometheus.

But i think this was MAYBE nothing to do with Saving Time and Money but a INTENDED look.

However we can still go and be Introduced to other Engineers who Dress more Different.... maybe those LV-223 kinds are NOT all Gone... and IF they are the Fallen Angels..

Maybe they could Dress more in Combination of LV-223 and Hellraiser?

And so other Engineer World inhabitants may NOT look the same as Planet 4, they maybe could have Different Architecture Aesthetic... more of a HR Giger Aesthetic?  And they may Dress in something Different to what the Elders in Prometheus and Engineers in Alien Covenant did?

Its Possible.

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

In addition to formulating flying space faring xenoships, I was thinging of Space Jockey/Engineer military vessels as well. What would an Engineer Starcraft Carrier would look like?

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPARADISE CITY

"Maybe the goo spread some infection, so they ran and tried to get shelter in some room? This is how they find the beheaded Engineer"

Indeed this seems to be the Case.... the Engineers seemed to be Infected with the GOO in someway.... it makes SENSE that they was Running to that Room because when we get to Prometheus we see the Head in the Room is Preserved Well, the Urns in the Room had NOT Started to Leak until the Crew of the Prometheus had Affected the Environment with their Presence.

So maybe this Room was a Pressured Environment or something where the Pathogen would become Inactive or SLOW DOWN...

The Engineer Suit on the other Side was HOLLOW... other Shots of Dead Engineers were HOLLOW... but this could be for Production (Less Time and Less Weight with Hollow Props).  But IF indeed Holloway was in the Process where Eventually he would become like the Sacrificial Engineer, then if you was inside a SPACE SUIT all that would Remain inside is  SOUP!

When the Process of the Chemical Reaction that the Pathogen does in Breaking Down a Organism, then Contained in a Pressure Suit, this could EXPLODE from the Suit and i think that does HELP to Explain the Dead Engineer Suits.

It seemed that RS had indicate what Happened to the Engineers was similar to what was becoming of Holloway.... and so when we look at HOW do those Engineers get Infected?

SABOTAGE does seem the Answer.... IF someone was AGAINST the Mission, they could Arrange a Celebration DRINK...

"here is a Toast my Comrades, soon we Shall Smite those Humans of the Face of their World and Reclaim it"

Otherwise maybe someone had Contaminated their Suits...  as Far as maybe Oxygen or whatever they Need to Survive inside a Suit.

But thats NOT to say what Happened it was a Mystery... they Suffered a Outbreak and that was that... it was Never Indicated as to HOW this Happened.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPARADISE CITY

"When I watch Star Wars I don't think "oh this movie is two hours" I get caught up in the moment, that's what happens when the movie is good"

I think Star Wars has a Advantage that is is VERY WELL KNOWN.... its often that some Movies the Studios do AIM for a Run-Time of 90-110 Min and you do have Movies that have to CUT like 15-30 Min Footage that sometimes is to HELP it get down to Running Time.....

If you have a WELL KNOWN Franchise that you KNOW will Guarantee Box Office then its more LIKELY that more Casual Viewers will go see it, if this is NOT the Case you get Hardcore who would go see it still but some Casual Viewers may be "Nah! i wait for Home Release"

But sometimes then YES you could RISK it... take AVATAR this was a New Franchise and it did Extremely Well and YET it Ran for 160 Min or so.

It come down to say "ok so we gonna have extra 15 Min thats devoted to the Engineers City" its then ok so WHAT do we do with that Extra 15 Minutes and WHAT is this Really going to do with the Rest of the Plot.

"You got to prioritize, and unfortunately they messed up Covenant"

Well the Prequels were to NOT be about the Xenomorph but other Themes and Creation was ONE of those, with the U-Turn to go and SHOW US the Origin of the Xenomorph and Eventually to lead us to ALIEN... it seems that RS was NOT a Big Fan but he Compromised and it would seem that HE or Hill/Giler decided to THROW the Curve-ball that David had Created the Xenomorph and so the PLOT was to be Centered around HIM....

Its NOT to everyones Cuppa Tea.... but you CANT please everyone.. it seems that even the Earlier Ideas for P2 would have seen David use the Black Goo etc to CREATE a HORROR.....

For me i GET IT.... it makes Sense.... but to me i think they should have had David go and Create something thats Different, and also had taken us to where we could have MET with Engineers and other Humans.... they had to be Sacrificed in a Quick Scene so that you can Introduce other Humans to the PLOT!

I dont have much of a Problem with A.I in Movies we all have Different things we like and dont like..... i do think we should have seen more about the Engineers and SET-UP that we would Further Explore then in Future...

You are SPOT ON in that its Hard to Pull Off a Movie if you dont have Good Characters and by that its Usually Human or something you can see some Humanity/Vulnerability with.  And so David just came off as Straight Up Malevolent but he had his Reasons which we NEVER got to Delve into much...

A Movie Needs a Antagonist... but you have to Balance that with the Protagonist and well THIS is a Area it just NEVER WORKED....   it was just Hard to Connect with and be Bothered about Daniels and Tennessee and what becomes of them.  The Plot does-not Bold Well for them..

And so Do You go again and introduce more New Protagonist?   Then if we need TWO more Movies and David will likely be Important to BOTH its then HOW do you have New Protagonist who can Survive another TWO Movies?

I think that there could have been a BETTER IDEA... for a Prometheus Sequel, you dont have to have Humans who come from Earth....

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XenotarisAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

well MonsterZero, go write this alien fanfiction. also with a reboot why would they retain the 70's look?

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

"That Starshipomorph looks awesome BigDave"

Well the Image was a Idea they was going to USE in the Prequels......

The Idea i had came about in Part from HR Gigers Mural for ALIEN, his Comments about the Ship being Grown and Producing the Eggs... and then THIS from Prometheus.

We have a Number of Creation Myths regarding a Turtle....

The Turtles Shape is something you could Image as a Bio-Mechanical Ship..... and so the IDEA was maybe you have some HUGE BIO-MECHANICAL SHIP that is somewhat like a Turtle... but the Head is Different, maybe something more Closer to what is ABOVE the Doors in Prometheus.

This Enormous Bio-Mechanical Ship could Create say the Derelict Ships, and Store them....

Now Obviously the Turtle Inspired Ship would NOT look Exactly like that, it would be as IF you said to HR Giger right see this Turtle i want you Design me a MOTHER-SHIP thats like a Giant Turtle and Put your Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic to it with Creative Freedom to make it HOW you like.

The Derelict/Juggernaut in the Image is for Reference to the Min Size i would have these Bio-Mechanical Birthing Mother-ship.... maybe even have it 2-3X Larger.

So the SHELL if you would could have like a Turtle Shell meets Xenomorph Queen Head/Carapace look to it, with then some Aesthetic from the Derelict thrown in for Good Measure.

The Main Entrance being a Menacing Head/Face and the Mouth would OPEN UP to allow for Ships to come IN/OUT.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

I think if i can WIPE my MEMORY from AFTER to 2005

And all things Considered Before then the Conclusion i Draw would Depend on if we Consider Drafts and Comments by Production Team/Directors.

When i saw the Space Jockey and Eggs over and over... the ONE thing that STICKS OUT is it seems there is a Connection between the Xenomorph Aesthetic and the Ship.  This actually is Because they are HR Giger Designs.

The Eggs/Face Huggers do-not have this Aesthetic they look ORGANIC.

The Space Jockey looks more like either a Space Suit or a Bio-Mechanical being like the Xenomorph.  It seems the PILOT CHAIR was Designed Specifically for the Space Jockey Suit/Being.

So the Origins/Creation of the SHIP and the SUIT/BEING and XENOMORPH must all have a Common Connection.  Therefor i was left to Conclude.

*The Space Jockey Race had Created this Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic and also Created the Xenomorph.

*The Space Jockey Race had Engineered its Technology from the Xenomorph.

*Something else had Created all the Technology, the Xenomorph and either Created the Space Jockey or Enslaved the beings in the Space Suit.

There is the OPTION that the Xenomorph is the Hierarchy here and Creators of it all.... but looking at them in the Franchise they do-not appear to be THIS to me.

So depending on WHICH of those would be WHAT is going on, would Determine as to WHAT the Home-World would be like. Well where you could have Gone if you was to Explore the Origins in Part and Connect to WHY the Space Jockey had the Eggs.

With Ridley Scott he had CLAIMED the Xenomorph was a Engineered Creation of the Space Jockey Race, and to me that MAKES the MOST SENSE...

But then you are LEFT with WHEN/HOW did they Create this Bio-Mechanical Technology and Organisms.

You could still PONDER is there a more ALIEN ORIGIN here?  Or do the Space Jockey just Possess a Technology/Material that is Beyond our Comprehension.

Regarding going to other WORLDS...

We see the Space Jockey (we can Safely Assume) can be Infected with the Egg Cargo and so it would be FOOLISH for them to Engineer/Create and Store them on their Home-World and so i would ASSUME they have another World/Moon/Outpost where the Xenomorph are Engineered/Created and Stored.

The Concept of a Xenomorph Home-world to me THUS comes down to a WORLD where they had GOT TOO and then GOT out of CONTROL....  LV-426 could maybe have become such a PLACE before Hadleys Hope.... but looking at ALIENS it would see that WORLD EXPANSION would come down to HOW MANY HOSTS they can Obtain.

The Xenomorph to me look like a Species that are Limited to Organic Life on a World it can USE and then Requiring someone to TAKE them to other Worlds.

Ridley Scott had informed us they was Biological Warfare and so at the TIME it was against WHO and WHY?

The Xenomorph always to me seemed to NOT be the Ideal Weapon....

The ONLY way it would be so would be IF the Organism has a Limited Life Span, and then if the Space Jockey Suits Protect you from the Eggs.....  But it seemed the Eggs are Sensitive to Vibration/Movement and so its ALWAYS a Question of HOW do you Transport the things!

Of Course there are Flaws/Goofs to this..... Kane had knocked Eggs when he FELL into the PIT OF EGGS..... but the ONLY one that OPENED was when he Approached it Close.    The ONLY thing that makes Sense to me is maybe they Detect CO2 or similar and this Activates them.... having a Space Suit you would have to Expel the CO2 we Exhale out of the Suit or you will Poison Yourself.

But this is going a BIT OFF TOPIC ;)

But Point i wanted to get to is that IF the Eggs are Grown like say a Plant, then maybe you have Small Eggs or a Seed, that you can Transport and Plant them in the Cargo Hold.... and they GROW into the Eggs.

The Problem with this is the Original Idea was a Egg Morph and so then your LEFT with Egg Morphs and HOW do you Transport them?

The Next Problem is ALIENS because we see a Queen can LAY EGGS and so this does give some Credence to THAT is HOW the Eggs came about which would then Indicate that the Space Jockey maybe Obtained them from another World..... but then you have to ASK as to HOW is it the Xenomorph and Space Jockey Ships have that same Aesthetic?

Its kinda the Chicken or the Egg Question.

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MonsterZeroAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Alien reboot: I wouldn't touch anything. I'd keep the CRT tech and just update the SFX of the Ash headless sequence.

Aliens reboot : I'd change everything except the basic plot ( xenos versus space marines ) 

Alien 3 and 4 would be completely different because I rewrote ALIENS.

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

"...homeworld as two separate planets..."

 

Maybe xenomorphs, like dinosaurs, ruled the Engineers planet before the Engineers existence? Finding the long dead xeno's DNA, they brought them back( Jurassic Park style....Xenomorph land )

Perhaps Engineers and xenomorphs evolved from a common ancestor? ( like apes and humans )

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumPARADISE CITY

I understand about casual viewers, but maybe run-time doesn't matter as much if you enjoy it. If you do, you'll tell people about it and people might watch it. When I watch Star Wars I don't think "oh this movie is two hours" I get caught up in the moment, that's what happens when the movie is good.


You mention the Amish people, and I understand that, it's just that they could and should have looked more interesting. You might say that this has got to do with connecting humans to the Engineers, but I still think that it could have looked more interesting. Just because the Engineers are tied to humans doesn't mean that they have got to look exactly like us.

About the cathedral and technology, we didn't get to see a lot of the buildings, and it went so fast. When you build a city like that and bring something new, you should at least try to spend some more time focused on it, otherwise it becomes like a bracket. By doing this, you bring something new to the franchise and also give us some time to look at it and wonder what that is about.


Time, but that has got to do with what you are interested in. If you are more interested in a cray robot, then you try to show that and less of other things. You got to prioritize, and unfortunately they messed up Covenant. Covenant could have been better if they reduced the David-stuff heavily and focused on more interesting things. Maybe it was the studio, but I would have liked to see more about the Engineers and not have it shown via David but from humans discovering various things.


You mention protection from the goo, this reminds me of the hologram with the running Engineers. Maybe the goo spread some infection, so they ran and tried to get shelter in some room? This is how they find the beheaded Engineer.


"Something like this in a Scene with that ORREY would have shown off the Engineers Technology, it would give a Insight to Oram that Mankind are NOT alone in the Galaxy and that Edens like Earth are Everywhere....."


That could have been interesting to see and make sense. Maybe they could have gone ahead and continued their search from there. Some of them could have fled the planet that David was one and continued their search. One problem is that they just had one ship to use, but there could have been another one, not sure how that would have worked.


It had problems but could have been so much better. My thing is how do you make a movie like Covenant and still reduce the part of David? I know that the story in Covenant was about him, but the focus was wrong, they should have reduced his part heavily and focused more on the humans. You mentioned that they had a difficult time to come up with a story, but having that time on their hands, they sure should have been able to make something better? Just having time isn't the only thing because it can still end up in a disappointment. There has got to be a way to get a story that is at least decent and characters. Hopefully those that are in charge of it nowadays discuss what went wrong and how they can get it back on track. Maybe they will look at the prequels and what didn't work there. Everyone does mistakes, but what's important is that you learn from them.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Nah, Aliens deals with characters a lot better and also as far as the lore goes the queen is far easier to deal with compared to the David-part. Even though Aliens is a bit 80's I got to say that I like it a lot more than Covenant. You are right about the creature, it was more interesting in Alien compared to Aliens.

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XenotarisAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

Huh, I have the Engineer/Space Jockey world and the xenomorph homeworld as two separate planets in AVPU

That Starshipomorph looks awesome BigDave, better then what i envisioned

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XenotarisAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

hox

Those elements you dislike in Aliens are heavily tied to the Motherhood theme of the movie

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

"A) If RS had got to make a Sequel to ALIEN he would taken us to the Home-World of the Space Jockey.  He even wanted to do this after ALIENS too.

B) If JC had got to make a Sequel to ALIENS he would have taken us to WHERE the Xenomorphs came from."

 

Well, then a collaboration would probably work...Home-world of both species are one and the same. Makes sense...Engineers evolved some bug they found on their world. Xeno's infested and the Engineers, busy engineering, lost track of their home-world. Humans are probably going to forget about Earth as we explore the galaxy....?

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BigDaveAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Yeah its HARD to Fault the Movie..... Its Action Movie but its DONE Very Well...

Some MAY-NOT like it because they DONT like the Queen/Hive Concept, some think it made the Xenomorph to Space Bugs, which it DOES but it goes to SHOW they had a Purpose... (SURVIVE) the None-DC version of ALIEN the Xenomorph was Basically a ALIEN Jason Voorhees

Some Because they always Felt the Xenomorph was more like a TERMINATOR (Near Enough Indestructible).

But thats the Fans for you.... they Each have a LIKE or DISLIKE and a IDEA/WANT for HOW they want to see Sequels... and when a Sequel gives something that GOES AGAINST what they Thought Prior then some Fans can Nit-Pick on a Movie over that.

Some Examples....

*What!  Egg Laying Queen!  Bloody Space Ants!

*What they Killed Ripley!  Stupid Alien 3!

*Hybrid Ripley and that Awful New-Born! NO this is NOT a Alien Movie!

*So the Space Jockey is NOT a Skeleton but Bloody Bald Space Smurfs and where is the Xenomorph!

*WHAT you KILLED Dr Shaw!  And David created the Xenomorph! Nah! this Movie does-not Exist.

And so you will get THESE with ANY other ALIEN Movie or TV Show that we will Ever Get... because Each Movie will LIKELY not go and Give us what we WANT or THINK.

I can Actually Find some Pros/Cons and Decent Ideas in ALL of the Movies (AVPR inc) but some are UNDONE by the Worse Parts... (AVPR Especially)

 

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

"Well I was thinking the xenomorphs develop or breed with a space whale-type creature to get their ship and become more less like the zergs"

Well at ONE POINT those working on the Prequels had indicated the Creators (of Space Jockey/Xenomorph)would be some Giant more WHALE like Organism and also a ALIEN looking Variant.

I had a Number of Years ago thought about Introducing something thats ABOVE the Engineers, something more ALIEN and HP Lovecraft.

And so there would be Bio-Mechanical (more Organic though) GIANT Space Craft that are like ALIEN Giant Turtles.  These would CREATE EGGS but they are NOT like in ALIEN but like the ALIEN POSTER.... and these Eggs would have Multiple Uses but would be like the Cosmic Egg and the SOURCE of ALL CREATION.

And so YES some SURREAL additions like you Suggest could be Interesting to Explore.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumI WANT TO GO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

"Is this considered canon or RS just setting up Prometheus?"

Well its a Process of Evolution of the Story.... we can maybe Forget what Starbeast had Shown as this Story the Pyramid (where Eggs were) and Ship were Separate and so it kinda does-not Apply to ALIEN. (But then some People do-not accept that the Cargo Hold is Part of the Ship).

So its Down to WHO'S STORY do you go for?

1) O'Bannon:  The Eggs/Spores are Held within a Pyramid/Temple and the Space Jockey was a ALIEN Species who just Happened to go to Explore the Pyramid and take back Eggs/Spores to their Ship.

The Pilot/Space Jockey and Ship looked Different and Never had a Similar Aesthetic to the Adult Stage of the Organism in those Eggs/Spores.

2) Ridley Scott: He had Indicated the Eggs were Biological Warfare which he then had said the Space Jockey had Created/Engineered.

He Evolved this to suggest the Eggs were something that Evolved in the Cargo Hold after the Outbreak on LV-223.

3) HR Giger:  He had Suggested that the Ships are Grown and that the Ships actually Produce the Eggs (The Egg Silo did this before being Merged as  the Derelict Cargo Hold).

But he Never Really touched on the Space Jockey Connection, just indicated it was a Space Suit, and the Occupants were Bald Humans who would Sacrifice themselves to Procreate the Xenomorph. However its NEVER indicated as to IF he Felt the Space Jockey are Servants to the Ships (or its Creators) or they (Space Jockey) Created the Ships.

4) James Cameron: He left it more Unknown as he Never went to Explain the Derelict/Space Jockey.  But he did seem to indicate he Felt the Pilot was a Slave to the Chair and is Merged Permanently to it.  But he seems to Indicate the Xenomorph as a Existing Species.

And so in this Case the Space Jockey Race just saw the Eggs/Xenomorph as Useful as a Biological Warfare.

5) Jon Spaights: He had indicated the Xenomorph Eggs are a Genetically Engineered Bio-Weapon, his Story seems to Imply they are Many Variants that were Engineered/Created from a Organism the Engineers had Encountered and USED their Creation Tool to make Weaponized Organisms.

Jon Spaights does-not cover much about the Xenomorph just that it is a Designed Killing Machine by the Engineers.

6) The U-Turn:  That is the Plot of Alien Covenant which indicates the Xenomorph Origins come from David, as he takes what the Black Goo had Created and using the Goo he Mixed DNA etc of Many Organisms to eventually Create the Protomorph (First Incarnation of the Xenomorph).

But when we are TALKING about the OT.... then the Prequels do-not really come into Play.

And so to Answer that Question of "Ridley Scott in 2012 had said that the Space Jockey was a Engineer, he had became Infected with his CARGO,"

Then Ridley Scott had Felt the Space Jockey Race had Genetically Engineered the Xenomorph Eggs to then be USED for Biological Warfare.

What he Changed by the Time he Finished Prometheus was to Suggest that after the Outbreak on LV-223 then within Few Hundred Years that something had Evolved in the Cargo Hold and it had GOT TOO the Space Jockey/Engineer Pilot

So the Pilot had been Infected (Unintentionally) by his Cargo, which was EGGS but then after Prometheus we have RS being more Vague... just something Evolved in the Cargo Hold.... this could mean that something had

*Evolved to Change into Eggs (then a Face Huger infects SJ).

*Evolved to then Create/Lay Eggs (then a Face Huger infects SJ).

*Something Evolved and Infected the Space Jockey and then the Result had then Laid those Eggs.

Those could be Likely but then again RS was Vague... and Never indicated anything more than something in the Cargo Hold had Evolved and Infected the Pilot.

But again the TOPIC is mainly looking at say to Discus either.

A) If RS had got to make a Sequel to ALIEN he would taken us to the Home-World of the Space Jockey.  He even wanted to do this after ALIENS too.

B) If JC had got to make a Sequel to ALIENS he would have taken us to WHERE the Xenomorphs came from.

Before AVP then both had been thinking about WHERE would you go for another ALIEN Movie.... but then FOX had wanted to make AVP instead.

When 2009 came around then the Prequels that Developed seemed to look at something more AKIN to what RS had/would have done Before.... only that you would GO TO where the Xenomorph Came from...  (Research/Weapons Facility that was SET UP on LV-426 (changed to LV-223).  And then a Sequel would have likely GO TO where the Space Jockey/Engineers came from.

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SasquaDashGodzilla ForumThe Past Few Years Have Been Tough, But At Least Gorosaurus Is Getting Work!

HinikunaGoji

The ad actually appeared when I was watching a review for King Kong Escapes, which is why I immediately noticed the Gorosaurus similarities. 

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hoxAlien Movies Forum"Aliens" , the worst "Alien movie" ever

Aliens is an excellent film, and not just for the action sequences. You’re knee-deep in memorable characters, for one thing. To see Burke’s eyes darting about while he schemes is nothing to do with popcorn. You’re not going to spot that on the first viewing. I have watched Aliens numerous times. The dialogue is generally outstanding and - for its time - the special effects are pretty good.

The only things I really don’t like are

- rear screen projection, which is all too obvious at times

- the mushy conversation between Ripley and Newt when she’s tucked up in bed

- timing error when Burke gets surprised ahead of the vocal he reacts to

- the Queen peering around a corner at Ripley - not convincing

- Newt calling Ripley “mommy” near the end

Small niggles for a great movie. There are just too many good things to mention to make Aliens a bad movie.

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