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KattozillaGodzilla ForumThe Human Characters of Monsterverse

a lot of people didn't like Josh but i actually didn't mind him

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"...NO Derelict on LV-426 as of the END of Alien Covenant.."

Just another reason not to write a Origae-6 movie. There would have to be more plot conveniences to shake a stick at if David finds another Engineer outpost on or around the Origae system, then finding another juggernaut( they are the used cars of the galaxy ) to load up with his eggs. Yeesh.

I could deal with Planet 4 having many juggernauts or maybe a manufacturing factory where you can grow your own. One that could fit a 13 foot mutated monster /David in a seamless chair.

 

"What BECAME of the Deacon "

 

A good reason to have a LV-223 movie where a rescue ship is sent to find out what happened to the Prometheus. Half the rescue ships crew gets eaten by the Deacon and David arrives in time to kill the rest. 

I barely see the A.I. / W Y disregarding the Nostromo disappearance......But really don't see Peter Weyland and his daughter brushed aside.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

HinikunaGoji,
It's made $166M world wide off a $185M budget. It hasn't even cleared its budget and still needs to make another $100M+ just to break even. It won't happen.

I fear a solo Monsterverse Rodan movie, for example, would be a similar bust.

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

sonictiger

Decent doesn’t mean bad. I just wouldn’t expect a superhero movie to be an artistic masterpiece. Though I didn’t go see it so I wouldn’t know.

And after researching Suicide Squad did flop. It only made back 14% of budget

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

Anyhow, I think Kong needs to fight revamped versions of his 2005 monsters and some original content similar to the Skullcrawlers and Warbats and Hell Hawks.  I think a mix of both is in order.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

DECENT?!?!?!? DECENT????? Anyhow, I would say if the movie doesn't have the title of Godzilla or Kong....Yeah, it could flop hard.  And I don't think moviegoers will fall for celeb-baiting for a third time since Millie Bobby Brown was wasted twice.

I already made an article on this, so I'll stop here.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"Like you said, Space Jockey died from something other than a Xeno burst., so the Deacon makes a good choice"

The Space Jockeys Fate has always been a Mystery but Ridley Scott had Explained it, he had Basically Confirmed that after the OUTBREAK on LV-223 some 2000 Years ago; that something had EVOLVED in the Cargo Hold and Infected the Pilot.  Therefore he had Envisioned at the Time of Prometheus that something had Evolved in the Cargo Hold over a Few Hundred Years which became those EGGS.

HOWEVER..... all BETS are OFF at the Moment as it is OPEN to Different Answers but ONE THING seems Certain.... the is NO Derelict on LV-426 as of the END of Alien Covenant and the Space Jockey will become INFECTED by a XENOMORPH but by a Xenomorph thats a EVOLUTION of what we saw in Alien Covenant.

Regarding the Deacon..... well the ONE that we saw at the END of Prometheus we have to Remember a Few things..

1) It is a Infant and so it will LIKELY go on to Grow 3-4X its Size and it may LOOK more Menacing as it Gets to Adult Stage.

2) It is a Hybrid and the Trilobite was some kind of Hybrid Face Hugger that had a LOT of Human/Mammal DNA.   And so THIS may be Passed onto the Deacon and so maybe the Deacon would Procreate like a Mammal?

So the Deacon i think would maybe NOT go and Produce Eggs, maybe it can Procreate without Sex, maybe it does-not Require a Host?   And so maybe it can Give Birth to Live Young every Few Hours or Days and these would GROWN to become more Deacons?

But YES we could also Explore other WAYS it could Procreate....  The Egg Morph or Similar, or maybe it Infects a Host that would Mutate into a Deacon/Human Hybrid?

What BECAME of the Deacon would Depend on the Following...

a) How Long does the Deacon Live for?

b) How does a Deacon Procreate? Can it Procreate?

c) Does this Require anything like a Host? or Genetic Material?

d) Can the Deacon become Infected with the Black Goo?

e) Can the Hammerpedes Infect a Deacon?

The Hammerpedes are another Topic for Discussion as its LIKELY that there are More on LV-223 and so the Questions i ASK about the Deacon can APPLY to the Hammerpedes too.

LV-223 as of the Year 2094 had a Deacon wandering around and at LEAST 1-2 Hammerpedes.

The Female Engineer is Interesting as we have to ASK the same of a Female Human, does a Infected via Black Goo or Face Hugger etc have the same Result if its MALE/FEMALE or can they Produce something Different?

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

If the Monsterverse is to continue, it can not rely on Toho IP. Including Toho's most popular monsters didn't sell King of the Monsters on the general audience in any territory, even Japan. So spending money on licensing fees for even less popular characters seems like a bad idea. It needs to find a different way to go about things if it has any intention of surviving.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

HinikunaGoji,
I was referring to 2021. It's a decent movie and all, but it's relatively obscure comic book material that has become one of the biggest financial flops of the year.

I think doing the same with obscure Toho IP would lead to similar results--Good movie or not.

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

Okay..then... the Deacon is a queen hybrid and when it reaches maturity begins laying eggs aboard the LV-223 juggernauts and these eggs produce deacons NOT xenomorphs ( that's David's bag ). ? It only makes sense that the Deacon is special...coming from a crazy mix of a male human, an INFERTILE female Trilobite Engineer mash up!

Or the Deacon uses the bodies ( Vickers, Janek, etc..) found in the wreckage to egg morph the cargo. ( still not xenomorphs but Deacons )

Like you said, Space Jockey died from something other than a Xeno burst., so the Deacon makes a good choice.

A female Engineer could have been the pilot and the Deacons eggs do interact with the hosts sex and female burst produce queens? ?

Either way the derelict origins are messed up. David HAD to plant the eggs to produce a xeno type aboard the Nostromo.

 

Though we should clarify that David type xenos start life as miniature versions and Deacon types as hammerpeade  snakes.

The Nostromo Kane burster was clearly snake like and not Planet 4 type ( fully formed but a small )

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"what if the Deacon is the creature who chest burst the Space Jockey"

I think with Alien Covenant and showing that David is the ONE who Begins to Create the Xenomorph i think its UNLIKELY that the Space Jockey would be Infected by a Deacon that then Produces the Eggs.

But YES the Space Jockey is Chest Busted by something.... and we have to ASSUME its in the Cargo Hold/Egg Chamber.... some have in the Past gone to Speculate the Space Jockey gets Infected on LV-223 and then WHAT EVER has Chest Busted has MADE its WAY into the Cargo Hold to then Lay/Create the Eggs.

The Egg Morph is Interesting as i THINK that we could USE this to get to the Thousands of Eggs, if we have it that either.

1) David is able to Infect the Colonist (even their Bodies Dead/Alive) and they become/Morph into Eggs.

2) As above but its the Engineers who do this....

3) David or the Engineers will Create a Organism that can Egg Morph the Colonist.

These would be a way to EXPLAIN THE EGGS...

There is ONE MISSING PIECE of the JIGSAW!

The Xenomorph from Alien Covenant is NOT YET the Bio-Mechanical Fiend that we see in ALIEN, and RS has said it has NOT YET achieved that YET and it will have to EVOLVE before we get to ALIEN.....

The more Mechanical/Synthetic Element will have to come into PLAY... and maybe a Synthetic will PLAY that ROLE.... the Xenomorph in Alien could be a Alien Covenant Protomorph/Synthetic Hybrid.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"It'd be cool if the help came from LV-223! And a certain derelict crashed because of it!"

I would SAFELY ASSUME that the Engineer we saw in Prometheus was the LAST/ONLY one on LV-223.

We dont know what SHIPS the Engineers would Return with, i am NOT sure that their Main Agenda is to USE HORRORS like on LV-223 like all the Time... it seems that to CREATE and Evolve Civilizations is what they Mainly are Focused on.

But SURELY they would NOT be Happy at Discovering as to WHAT had Happened on Planet 4 and they would SURELY be looking to see HOW they can Prevent this Happening again.....

LV-223 is NOT that FAR away and so maybe they would go THERE and Prepare the SHIPS to Destroy maybe just Mankind on Earth... but maybe they would Target other Worlds they had Seeded to be on the SAFE SIDE?

I think the Engineers would be UPSET and ANGRY.... but i think we have to Wonder as to WHAT they would make of David's Workshop and his Creation (Eggs) and also WHAT would they make of Walter?

Have they seen a None-Organic Synthetic Before? Well Certainly a Robot of Sorts?

As far as DAVID goes..... i would either IGNORE to where he Goes/What he does! (leave that a Mystery or for Future).  We do-not NEED to have David to get Eggs... there are like 6-8 Left (maybe more) on Planet 4

Or as Discussed we have the Covenant Land on LV-223 and the Engineers and other Humans will TURN UP at a Later Date after David has been on LV-223 for 1-2 Years.......

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

Well ....what if the Deacon is the creature who chest burst the Space Jockey? That would tie the series together? The Deacon produces egg morphs or something like.

The Space Jockey could have special suit armor ( seemless technology war armor ...something that needs to be extra tough).

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

The Pickle we are in comes down IMO to Panic..... a Panic to THINK that the Fans want to see the Xenomorph.... and then to come up with a MOVIE that will Begin to take us to ALIEN and then HOW/WHERE do Humans come into Play?

I have said a NUMBER of Times and Made Topics on the Matter... that what they should have DONE was to Make...... TWO Sequels to Prometheus!

1) The First being a Mission to LV-223 maybe a Yutani Mission, but Regardless we have Humans going to LV-223 to Investigate the Disappearance of the Prometheus.  What we have is a more Military Group and then they UNCOVER a Number of Horrors..... we can have it where we see something that is Different to the Xenomorph and Deacon but still Familiar.  You can then have a Number of Clues or some Dialog to make the Connection to the Xenomorph and LV-426.

You then have IN-PART gone and Answered more about the Xenomorph and LV-426 and Provided a more ACTION/HORROR kind of Movie.

YOU can then CLOSE the DOOR to ALIEN.

2) With the Above Movie out of the WAY, then David and Dr Shaw and their Journey does-not have to be Shackled to ALIEN or give any Answers, well it does-not have to be about Xenomorphs.

David and Dr Shaw can ARRIVE at a Engineer World it does-not have to be Paradise, we could have David say he has taken Dr Shaw to a Closer World for her Answers..... or this World could be Paradise?

This World could be THOUSANDS or TENS of THOUSANDS of Light Years Away... WHY it could even be in another GALAXY.....

You could have it that this World we see Engineers (not in Great Number) and Various Humanoid Species which Include Humans who are all Living in Harmony.

This Allows us to see more about the Creation Plot and WHAT kinds of Creation the Engineers would Create (i think its NOT to Create Horrors).  We can maybe GET some of the Answers that Dr Shaw had Wanted....

But Ultimately it would be David who will have the Greatest Effect on the PLOT... how would the Engineers view HIM?  If they seem somewhat to Accept Dr Shaw then would David become Jealous?

If the Engineers are Concerned with David.... maybe they would Consider they have to GET RID of him, and then HOW would David go and React?  He Surely would want to SURVIVE at ANY COST!

The Engineers could become Concerned that Humans had Managed to get to LV-223 and also USE their Technology (via David) and maybe the Engineers would Conclude they would have to DESTROY the Earth.... and then HOW would Dr Shaw react to that?  Would she want to PREVENT this?

If there are Humans and other Species on this World who Follow the Engineers Ways/Religion and Rituals.....  How would those beings view Dr Shaw and her FAITH and would the Engineers become Concerned of that Influence

If the Engineers either become Concerned with Dr Shaw and Ponder to KILL her, or to Destroy Mankind and Dr Shaw wants to STOP THEM.... then MAYBE we could see David go on to HELP....   or does he have a Sinister Agenda?

What of the Horror?  What of the Xenomorphs?

Well you could have David go and UNLEASH HELL to Protect Dr Shaw, and then he could have a Sinister Agenda to CREATE his OWN Horror!

I just DONT think the Writers had much of a IDEA or that Ridley Scott, and FOX and Powers that be (Giler and Hill inc) maybe were NOT that Happy with WHAT was being Proposed....

But then Powers that Be.... had decided to make a Movie about the Xenomorph and its Origins and that the Prometheus Sequel would become Part of a Literal Prequel Series that would Arrive at ALIEN down the Line...

And ALAS.... Alien Covenant was BORN...

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"...Message to other Engineers in the Galaxy."

I'm just not sure how many Engineers it would take to get justice. Seems like one Engineer was threatening Earth ( Prometheus )?

It'd be cool if the help came from LV-223! And a certain derelict crashed because of it!

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

There is a LOT of Mystery surrounding the Engineers still.

1) Do those Engineers who were on Planet 4 know about Mankind on Earth?

2) Do those Engineers who were on Planet 4 know about LV-223 and the Horrific Experiments that were being Conducted on LV-223?

3) Are the Returning Engineers to Planet 4 aware of Points 1+2?

"Synthetic Engineers? Maybe they are the bio-humanoid link?"

I am drawn to the LV-223 and Sacrificial Engineer being either

a) A Enhanced Sub-Creation of the Engineers!

b) A Group of Engineer who had Enhanced/Evolved themselves!

"This would explain why there are so few of them"

This becomes the Problem when they had to SHOE-HORN in that Planet 4 was CLOSE to Earth...... a Years Travel for the Covenant..... thats NOTHING for Engineer Technology we have to ASSUME.

*Where had the Engineers Originated from?

*How many Worlds had they Seeded/Evolved and Visited?

*How many of these Worlds have they Destroyed/Reset?

*How many Worlds have the Engineers themselves Inhabited/Still Inhabit?

Because its STRANGE for a Race who are Many Millions of Years Old who had the Agenda to be Creators....... Genetic Space Gardeners if you would.....  Then i would FIND it UNLIKELY that they ONLY have LV-223 and Planet 4 and a Handful of other Worlds......

Surely we cant have it that a LARGE % of the Engineers had their Dealings/Affairs and Lived within like 50LY of Earth!

The Most Logical Answer would have to be that the Engineers had ABANDONED the Destruction of Mankind, they had Believed that without the Engineers Help, Knowledge and Interaction then Mankind would be MERELY just Cavemen!

And so in their Arrogance they Proved to be Naive as they NEVER thought that Mankind would SURELY be able to Evolve at a Technological Level to EVER be able to Traverse into Space!

Other Engineers would likely RETURN to Planet 4 at Certain Intervals and the Last Time they came back to Planet 4, they either NEVER BOTHERED to Check on Earth as they ASSUMED we would NOT EVOLVE and so they LEFT us to ROT or Destroy Ourselves.....   or they had Checked on us Hundreds of Years ago and had NO CONCERNS about HOW FAR we had Evolved.

The Problem we have is SURELY the Engineers who RETURN would LIKELY go and SEND a Message to other Engineers in the Galaxy... .. Unless again those who Return are Arrogant and Naive and they Believe that there is NO NEED to Contact HQ etc, as they can DEAL WITH IT on their Own....

And we have to ASSUME those Engineers will MEET their DEMISE.....

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

 "The Engineers have unceremoniously dumped the Covenants wreckage in a field just outside the city. A few Engineers are examining the remnants, one tears a hypersleep chamber from it moorings, removes it's occupant and proceeds to rip the head from it's body. Walter is powerless to stop the violence. He watches from afar. Lucky to be alive. The Engineers soon move off and Walter enters the hulk looking for survivors. He spots Daniels sleep chamber, it is upside down, five meters above his head, he creates his own hand holds and climbs to release her...." 

 

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sonictigerGodzilla (Toho) NewsMonsterverse scribe Max Borenstein wants a Godzilla vs. Kong sequel without any Humans!

He can't write good human characters anyways so....maybe he'll do better but I DOUBT IT.

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YeOldFossilGodzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

Gorosaurus is the only Toho monster that should be in the new Kong movie. He is originally Kong’s monster anyway. I do agree that Kong deserves his own rouges gallery rather than piggy backing on Godzilla’s. I want him to fight some mammalian kaiju too!

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YeOldFossilGodzilla ForumMuto Prime vs Kong, who would win?

Kong. MUTO Prime evolved to hunt and prey on Godzilla’s species so it is more prepared to handle Godzilla than any other Titan. Kong is an alpha and definitely strong and smart enough to take MUTO Prime. He should be able to match its physical strength and is faster and more agile. Kong is also a better fighter who got mad hands. Mid dif Kong with out the axe. Low dif Kong with the axe, but he no longer has it or needs it anymore so I’m sure we won’t see him use it again.

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

Start Alien: Covenant 2 with An Engineer walking off a scorpion ship and casually tossing David's severed head at Walters feet. Also the Covenant is in a cargo bay aboard the ship ( upside down or on it side) better yet...have the Covenant in 2 pieces with hundreds hypersleep chambers strewn about the deck.

 

I like this because the Covenant is no match for any military vessel and highly unlikely to out run anything ( setting sails and all! ) And I don't think it would be an incredible action sequence that anyone would miss. An unarmed Engineer made quick work of David before.

So a switch from crazy David to psychotic Engineers on Planet 4? And would the Engineers really do experiments on the Covenant crew?! 

Make the military Engineers ( in their massive weapon suits ) dim witted and slow.

Maybe the Engineers are also controlled by A.I.? 

Synthetic Engineers? Maybe they are the bio-humanoid link?

 

Okay ...How about this: The Engineers did transcend. This would explain why there are so few of them. This would be better than trying to explain the disappearance of a trillion Engineers. Small Engineer tribes are trying to rebuild their once great society by seeding worlds ...just like their brethren a billion years earlier. 

 

I'm starting to think Planet 4 should be the next movie. Plenty of spores littered around, far more dangerous then LV-223, We haven't scene what the weather is like...could have a snow storm scene. 

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

That Raises some Good Points....

What we can Establish is that Planet 4 is within a Years Travel from Earth for at LEAST a Number of Earth Ships, if we say its within a 50/75LY Radius from Planet 4 then the Question is HOW MANY of Mankinds Ships are in Space and within that Radius by the Time the Engineers Return?

And so it would be HOW would the Engineers Determine which is the Covenant and also DEPENDING on WHEN the Engineers Return the Covenant would LIKELY be 40LY per Year Further Away.

You could say they would JUST have a WAY to Scan Worlds and Detect Humanoid Life, but the Problem here is AGAIN.... depending on WHEN the Engineers will come back its HOW are they going to TELL the Covenant Colony from any OTHER such Colonies and Outposts that Mankind is Based on within say 100-150LY?

A LAZY WORK AROUND is that Planet 4 has some kind of Observatory that Detected the Covenant Ship and has a IMAGE of it, as well as maybe a Specific Signature so it can THEN go and PIN POINT the Ship.

I am going to DOUBT they would have given us a PLOT where the Engineers or even the Company would Intercept the Covenant before it has reached Origae-6.

Another way around all of this is as YOU had Pointed Out..... we have David take the Covenant Ship to LV-223.

Regarding the RESTART with New Characters.... i agree thats a Problem....

A Consequence of making Alien Covenant a Prequel to ALIEN and to Introduce the Xenomorph is that a Majority of People would EXPECT that the Sequel would have EVEN MORE of them..... i am NOT SURE as to how many FANS would want to SIT through a Movie that has Little/Nothing to do with the Xenomorph, before we then Move to another Movie that MAY then give us more Xenomorphs and the LV-426 Incident.

And so to have a Movie that Revolves around David, then some Fans may be WANTING to know WHAT kind of Horrors he has in Store for the Covenant Colonist.  While some Fans (Quite a Lot) are TOTALLY against the David being Involved in the Xenomorph Creation Plot.....

Fans are likely to WANT to see a Sequel that has more ALIENY Content than even we saw with Alien CovenantIF they are to see David go off and SET UP the Colony while Pretending to be Walter, and then IF we see David go and TRY and Create something that is NOT the Xenomorph then i am NOT sure that Fans in General would be interested.... it would be WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ALIEN?

The Problem with such a PLOT as above... is HOW does Daniels come into Play?   As she knows its DAVID on the Covenant...... so she could be a Problem for HIM and IF she SUFFERS some Fate and David goes to Tennessee that she Died in Cryo-Sleep then i think HE would become Suspicious.

The Characters of Daniels and Tennessean also NEVER really SOLD to a lot of Fans.... and so ONLY what becomes of David/Walter seem to Stand Out.

If we are SET to have another 2-3 Movies before ALIEN then its WHO would Survive to Carry On?

And so we have some Problems as FAR as what to do NEXT......

Ridley Scott seemed to Indicate that we would be seeing WHAT it is that David would want to Create Next and it would NOT be about Xenomorphs.  But that we would see Returning Engineers who would also TURN UP as well as 2-3 other Players.... and so HOW does this Pan Out?

What Role does the Xenomorph Play if ANY?  How do you FIT it into a Movie or would the PLOT take TWO and then its can you Engage the Fans through the First if we are NOT going to have Xenomorphs?

The NEXT MOVIE has to Depend on these Factors...

1) Where does David intend to go NEXT and what would be his Agenda?

2) What is the Companies Response to the ADVENT Message and would they Send out Ships and to WHERE?

3) When do the Engineers Return and WHAT would be their Response?

With (2) + (3) we can have a Good Guess at what they would do... but with DAVID, well that Really is Interesting as WHAT is his Agenda and Plans as these are WHAT would Determine as to WHERE we go NEXT and WHAT we are in STORE for.

And well with the CONCLUSION then IF its to NOT go and Conflict with the Franchise and Especially as of ALIENS and on-wards....

We have to ASK....

a) What becomes of Planet 4?

b) What becomes of LV-223?

c) What becomes of Origae-6?

d) What becomes of David?

e) What becomes of the Engineers?

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MonsterZeroAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

I'm wondering about the fan backlash from bypassing David, it's like bypassing / ending Shaw's storyline...."were stuck...so...NEW CHARACTERS!"

Bypassing David is also ending Daniels and Tee...like Shaw. 

I don't think the Engineers are going to allow Daniels and the Covenant to return home or travel on?

I think the Engineers would quickly decide Earth is the problem. It's the location of the ant hill and they are going to deal with more colonists and synths soon.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumWHERE TO GO NEXT?

"The Nostromo / Prometheus had no such nonsense."

They kind of did..... Prometheus it was the STAR MAPS that Dr Shaw and Holloway had Uncovered and with ALIEN it was Special Order 937

But i think the POINT you are making is that the Solar Flare/Neutrino Burst had got them to have to REPAIR the Solar Sails and this then Allowed for the Dr Shaw Signal to be Picked Up....

Some of the Plot was NOT that well thought out but we have such Problems with ALIENS, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection.  We have to Accept that the Engineers had some kind of Cloaking Technology that was able to HIDE the Planet, and the Neutrino Burst some how allowed for Dr Shaws Message to be Carried and Picked Up by the Covenant.

They had to have the Covenant be close (Few Weeks) away from Planet 4 and come up with a Reason to HOW they would then Investigate this World instead of to Continue to Origae-6, maybe they could have came up with a Better Idea.

And so by Following David to Origae-6 they have another such PROBLEM... like HOW would the Engineers know to GO there in search of David.

The Engineers could Check their Holographic Recordings and they would then Determine that TWO HUMANS had been on the Ship that Bombarded Planet 4 and so they would LOOK to Punish maybe ALL HUMANS.... then we have to ASK as to was the Earth the ONLY Place they are aware that Humans inhabit?

They would LIKELY come across Walter (what STATE is he in) and they could LIKELY think it was HIM who had Bombarded the Engineers.  The Most Logical way the Engineers would Determine they have to go to Origae-6 to catch the CULPRIT would be IF there was some way that Walter could Communicate with the Engineers and INFORM them of WHO had Destroyed the Cities inhabitants and WHERE it is that David is going.

By BYPASSING where David goes you AVOID the Need for any of that... you have the Company Send a Mission  to Planet 4...... then some Engineers Turn Up....   At the END we have them take a Interest in those Eggs on Planet 4 and take them to LV-223 to MASS PRODUCE.

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MorpheusPredator Movies ForumA pitch for a Predator movie to be set in Afghanistan ?

Heat is desired because it makes the flesh warmer and easier to detect not because they have some heat love.

They like conflicts and wars because in these situations those who are alpha are better recognizable, and they want to hunt alphas, leaders, they analyze before they hunt - your inteligence, leadership and tactics, then they reveal themselves if you are smart enough to survive the first attack. Usually all your associates are first to be killed, to provoke you, to make this matter more personal, to involve you in the fight where you actually want to fight and not give up, aswell as lower your chance to survive, to make you aware that you are being hunted aswell etc. So one way to look at it its fair, you do have the means to defend and to defeat the hunter, he made you aware of him as a threat. Its kill or be killed.

They dont just come to a village in summer and start blasting people. There is no honour and no challenge. They kill those who are willing to kill others, and the more you are capable to do this the more honour they have when they slaughter you.

The new movie must have some conflict in the story, perhaps tribes against tribes prologue and then the "watchers" choose to hunt those who are worthy to hunt.

 

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

Also to offer my own take, I think the MCU is so successful that anyone will watch it and the critics will adore it no matter the actual quality (example: Captain Marvel) and Toho's monsters have more of that cult status and I think there's potential after the success of Godzilla Vs. Kong.  Unfortunately it's hard to tell given the current rights issue making it's future uncertain.

 

Also people have flocked to KOTM and GVK solely because Millie Bobby Brown was in it, which sort of repeats Gman's statement about Marvel: "If a movie has the Marvel logo, audiences flock to it."

That's all I have to offer for now, feel free to display your thoughts.

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumWhat Happened To Skull Island's Dinosaurs?

just imagine

out there in hollow earth

 

 

there's a sinosauropteryx

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Gojirafan2013Godzilla ForumWhat Happened To Skull Island's Dinosaurs?

It’s always possible. Since the Hollow Earth shares a lot of similarities with the primordial world from Journey to the Center of the Earth, I could see dinosaurs popping up in the future. 

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XenotarisSci-Fi Fan Art / Fiction ForumALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR UNIVERSE (Fanfiction)

CHAPTER 21: THE EVACUATION

 

Dr. Chaolan stared at the monitors, between seeing the K-series getting slaughtered by the pure-strain xenomorphs and the surviving UPP soldiers being captured by the xenomorphs. Chaolan shifted his gaze back to the marines. 

 

“How could this happen? We took every precaution when designing this facility, there is no way the xenomorphs could have broken in! Unless…” Chaolan glances back over the surveillance monitor, two corporate black op members are seen running down a corridor leading to the starport. “Wraiths? Damn you, Weyland-Yutani!!”

“Dr. Chaolan, what about us?” asked one of his scientists.

“Prepare to evacuate as well, I’ll remain behind,” the silver-blonde haired scientist then turned towards the Lieutenant, “Lt. Powell, May I ask of you to have your men escort my scientists to the dropships”

“What about you?” Powell asked.


“Don’t worry about me, just get my team outta here. I will not have research taken from me when I’m so close to saving her. I’ll catch up to when I am done”

 

“Good Luck,” Powell said his farewell before taking his marines out of the labs. The xenoborgs guard the outside of the labs, awaiting for the enemy to enter their crosshairs. The marines doubled time down the dark metal hallways, leap forging behind cover before proceeding forward to the next vantage point. An eerie silence permeated the dark corridors. Bleep… the motion tracker detected movement up ahead. Bleep, Bleep, bleep… multiple white circles began flooding across the motion tracker’s monitor screen. The sounds of xenomorphs screeching and growling grew louder as the marines slowly encroached on their positions. 

 

The marines and the escorted scientists entered a hallway with large windows dominating the right wall. What little was left of the K-series was still putting up a fleeting resistance against the superior pure-strain xenomorphs. The walls hissed as glass cylinders bore through from hollow chambers built inside the walls. Both xenomorphs turned their attention to the cylinders. The glass containers popped their metal lids as hot evaporation air spewed forth. A xenomorph emerges from the glass container, its carapace a rusty brown opposed to the blackish grey of the pure-strains. Its jaws were cheekless, the lower jaw was barely held together by a few tendons of connective tissues to its upper jaws. The rest of its body was skeletal and fleshy compared to the biomechanical nature of the pure strain. The H-series roared at the pure strains and the K-series xenomorphs.

 

The H-series finished off the weaker K-series xenomorphs, before turning their attention to the pure-strain xenomorphs. The h-series charged at the purer xenos, their movements confused the pure strains. The H-series attacks were not very organized compared to the K-series but they were able to take out a few of the pure xenomorphs. The pure strain xenomorphs began their counter attack on the H-series after learning their opponents' attack patterns. The H-series xenomorphs fell quicker than their K-series counterparts.

 

“Damn it!” shouted one of the scientists, the xenomorphs below turned their attention to the high rise windowed corridor above.

 

“Everybody move!” Shouted Lt. Powell as they double time through the corridor. 

 

Blagoyavitch and Rizal were sprinting down the dark corridor, a loud hiss could be heard behind them. Blagoyavitch turned his head but saw nothing.

A xenomorph warrior bursts from a maintenance hatch near the redhead “Look out!” Josie Rizal screamed as she raised her railgun, the warrior quickly wiggled itself out from the narrow maintenance. Wasting no time, it  head butted Josie into the corridor wall. The warrior quickly spun around to grasp its claws around Blagoyavitch’s neck as it lifted him eye level to the xenomorph. Blagoyavitch felt his feet dangling off the ground, his eyes widened as the warrior began to peel back its lips. 

 

BAM! Rizal writhing in pain lowered her smoking rifle down, the injured warrior blood splashed on Blagoyavitch’s arm as it fired out its second jaws, taking Blagoyavitch’s ear off by mistake. The warrior fell to the ground now writhing in pain.

“Blagoyavicth!” Rizal rushed to her injured comrade’s side.

“Bastard took my ear off...and bled on my arm...” Blagoyavitch writhed in excruciating pain.

“I’m applying some Newt Solution,” Rizal pulls out a long tube filled with an acid counteractive chemical from her belt, displaying the MediCorp logo on it; in fine print Dr. Rebecca Jordan’s name was plastered on it. The solution quickly neutralizes the xenomorph’s acidic blood into harmless compounds. Rizal pulls out another packet to cauterize Blagoyavitch’s ear wound.

“Hey I never caught your first name,” he was curious.

 

“Josie,” Rizal answered.

 

“Kyle,” Blagoyavitch replied.

 

The warrior growls as it attempts to stand but with the loss of her tail, the xenomorph’s dorsal tubes and spinal spike have now become a hindrance to her…

At least on two legs, the warrior hisses at the two lost souls. Josie and Kyle quickly stood up as the xenomorph warrior charged at them. The two quickly bolted out of its way. The creature collided into the wall as the two young corporate black ops members made their escape. The tailless warrior pursued them, then she spotted another maintenance duct. 

 

Meanwhile, Dr. Kadinsky and his science team had reached the dropships. The scientists sighed in relief as they approached the landing ramp. Dr. Kadinsky stopped to take one last glance around the starport, feeling like this is the last time he will see this facility.

“Dr. Kadinsky, come on! We don’t have much time! Let's go!” one of the scientists demanded.

Dr. Kadinsky almost boarded the dropship, when a distorted blur caught his eye. Kadinsky suddenly is pulled away from the dropship ramp. The scientists in a panic raise the dropship’s ramp. Kadinsky felt helpless and abandoned as the dropship quickly departed from the starport. “Cowards!” he curses to himself. Kadinsky is again thrown onto the ground as the cloaked figure extends out her wrist blades, Kadinsky screams as the yautja approaches him.

 

Josie and Kyle make it to the starport but they were too late, the dropships were already departing. Kyle felt something wet dripping on his face, he wiped it off with his hand. Josie screams as she points her finger at the ceiling. Kyle double backs as he spots an upside down skinless corpse dangling from the ceiling. Kyle glances back at the starport and notices a few dropships left. He grabs Josie by the arm as he motions her to follow him to the starcrafts. They sealed themselves inside an old shuttle with no window ports. Kyle and Josie could hear something moving around outside. Kyle listens to the rhythms of the footsteps, the footsteps were slow but he could tell there were multiple individuals outside. 

 

Were they the rest of the science team, Kyle wondered, if so why weren’t they taking off? A loud thud could be heard from outside their starcraft’s door, whoever they were, they were more interested in their ship. Josie whimpered as she heard a thud on their ship’s roof followed by a series of quiter thuds running down the ship. Josie and Kyle turned to each other realizing what was outside; Xenomorphs.

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