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HinikunaGoji
Now if this was 2005 King Kong, he would be a Gorilla-Alien
This actually makes a lot of sense. Weaves all lore together flawlessly.
I believe it picks up right after Godzilla vs. Kong and takes place mainly in the hollow earth.
Might have been a little of both. He was probably tired from his fight with Ghidorah and probably didn't want to get into any other fights at the moment, but was still willing to fight if he had to. The look he gave Rodan in that scene seemed like an "I'm not in the mood for your crap" kind of look, and the look he gave to the other titans afterwards seemed like an "anyone else want test my patience?" look. At least that was my interpretation.
I got the impression Goji was ready to fight at them all but they bowed so he didnt.
Xeno-Kong could be a little more bulky, but probably just a drone, like you said
Now imagine a xenomorph-rodan, xenomorph-gigan, xenomorph-ghidorah and xenomorph-varan. A xenomorph-kong would probably just be a kaiju-sized Xenomorph Drone
I'll take ALIEN RPG canon over what Noah Hawley and Marvel has in mind for the series
Can't wait for Heart of Darkness to come out, because after that they might come out with the Space Trucker rulebook. Which is what my campaign is focused on
Noah Hawley knowns the ins and outs of the ALIEN franchise... yeah right.
This metahuman plot sounds like a bad idea, I would rather they reintroduce the Yautja in to Alien canon.
Big Dave you are right! I researched a little bit how I will design it! I watched the movie scene (like 20 times) and estimated from there how big it will be :) but you are right it got a little bit too big :)
Haha damn sry that it crashed your PC :o I like this resolution and quality. It's possible to zoom in and see more details :)
Godzilla was tired from his fight with Ghidorah so he wasn't in the mood to start any other fights. The MUTO Queen saw what Godzilla did to Ghidorah and probably knew that he would kill her if she tried to challenge him, so she backed down and submitted to him. It's possible that, due to their natural rivalry, they did eventually fight each other, but during the moment they called a temporary truce.
Again, this is only just me speculating. The official plot synopsis for Godzilla vs Kong stated that the Hollow Earth expedition would discovered clues to the Titan's origin, and since that expedition uncovered the mysterious Hollow Earth energy it's likely that the energy played a role in the the Titan's origins.
This theory was also inspired by this fan made video that was made prior to the release of GvK:
The Hollow Earth energy may have existed back during the Permian, Godzilla's species and other early Titans may have been mutated/created by the energy. G'14 stated that Godzilla was from an age where the Earth was "10 times more radioactive" and that when the radiation subsided, creatures like Godzilla and the MUTOs went deeper underground to be closer to pockets of that radiation. It's possible that the "radiation" was actually the Hollow Earth energy. The energy may have existed all over Earth's surface during the Permian and was responsible for creating the first Titans, but due to certain cataclysms, (possibly the Permian Extinction) the energy on Earth's surface subsided, with remnants of the energy source eventually only existing within certain locations of the Hollow Earth. Later throughout Earth's history, during the Mesozoic and Cenozoic eras, other types of animals (for example, great apes/ancestors of Kong' species) may have found their way into the Hollow Earth and were exposed to the Hollow Earth energy which also caused them to mutate and evolve into Titans.
The Hollow Earth energy might not have naturally formed on Earth and could have an extraterrestrial origin, possibly landing on Earth during or before the Permian. It could have originated from another planet that was destroyed, with chunks of that planet, containing the energy, landing on various other planets which gave rise to alien Titans, like King Ghidorah. Ghidorah's species being created by the the same (or similar) energy source could also explain why he came to Earth, possibly being attracted to the energy found in the Hollow Earth.
the permian was millions of years ago
Looking into that PLOT...
It seems we will get to see some Rich Corporate kinds who have LITTLE CARE for their Employees and Especially the Blue-Collar and Working Class.
It seems that the MAIN FOCUS will be on the Prodigy Corporation who in PART will be Working on the Creation/Engineering of Enhanced Humanoids...
These Humanoids will have Super-Human Abilities but i think these will be more like HOW we see Ripley 8 is Superior to a Normal Human rather than them having Various like X-Men Super Powers.... (No like SUPERMAN if you would not as far as beings as Powerful as Kal-El).
It will Feature normal like Synthetics too.... it could be we will see these Synthetics and Meta-Humans being Treated as NONE-HUMAN like we see the Replicants are in Blade Runner.
It would seem that ONE of the MAIN Characters will be a Military/Security Guy (JD Hermit) who had lost his Sister when she was 10 (Marcy) but he Discovers that ONE of the Meta-Humans who identifies as (Wendy) actually has his (JD Hermit) Sisters Consciousness uploaded to her (Wendy) Meta-Human Body.
Now its too Early to Speculate if this WENDY is going to be a MALE so we have a Male Aesthetically who Identifies as a Female (Consciousness) or we have a Very Masculine looking Female Aesthetically (think Vasquez ).
We have a Synthetic who is Tasked with Teaching Wendy, and Attempting to UNLOCK her TRUE POWERS who has some Sinister Agenda/Motive against the Company and Mankind.
This would seem the Future Threat Aspect (a A.I with its own Agenda and Objectives) who are Tasked with Mentoring these Meta-Humans... i guess this would be like a David 8 being tasked with Tutoring over Roy Batty (but if BOTH were Female).
It would seem that Wendy would Object to HOW herself and the Meta-Humans are being USED and so we could see her Lead some kind of REVOLT.... but it could be the Synthetic Kirsh and maybe others would be USING this to their Advantage to take Control over the Meta-Humans.
This may seem a OK Plot but i Worry it would seem a None-Alien kind of Plot... and so after like 3 Hours of this i think Fans would WANT to be seeing the Xenomorph.
The Question is WHEN/HOW/WHY the Xenomorphs would come into PLAY?
Are the Corporation using the Black Goo or Xeno-Dna to Create these Meta-Humans?
Are the Xenomorphs Accidentally Created at some Point or Evolve from the Prodigy Companies Experiments?
Are the Xenomorphs Created as a Response to the Threat of the Synths and Meta-Humans or by the Synths to deal with the Meta-Humans or Humanity?
Or are the Eggs Discovered, or are known of (USED for Experiments) but then someone... be that Humans, Synths or Meta-Humans then Decide to UNLEASH the Xenomorphs in some CONFLICT that we will see OCCUR between SYNTHS, HUMANS where META-HUMANS will PLAY some Role and then the Xenomorphs?
We can ONLY go and Speculate at the Moment but i think their Discovery will lead to a OUTBREAK due to some PARTY deciding to USE them for some Nefarious Agenda.
Which brings the BIGGEST CONCERN is that THIS would surely CONFLICT with the Franchise and Especially the Prequels!
I think its TOO EARLY to be Writing it OFF just yet.....
I think the ALIEN Franchise has been in a MESS since after Prometheus as Prometheus had NOT really Satisfied those who Expected a more ALIENY Movie with HOPES of seeing the Xenomorph or Similar and having the ORIGINS answered a Little More.
Prometheus had OPENED the Franchise up, and was NOT intended to be a Direct Prequel or Answer the Eggs Question.... which the REAL PROBLEM had became the Movie just NEVER gave some Fans any CLOSURE.. on that Subject. (Derelict and Eggs).
I was FINE with this as for ME there was enough Clues to have a Good Guess and some MYSTERY is always Welcome.
But the General Audience and a Certain amount of ALIEN Franchise Fans will be EXPECTING any ALIEN TV Show or a Movie to have the XENOMORPH.
And so its going to be a CASE of HOW MUCH of a Distraction is this other PLOT going to be and HOW MUCH of a Emphasis/Role are these Meta-Humans and Prodigy Shenanigans going to TAKE UP..... if this DOES-NOT go and ENGAGE the Fans would they LOOSE the Interest when we get to the XENOMORPH reveal... and HOW MUCH of a ROLL will they get?
It would be LIKELY the First Season will be about 10 Episodes Long (but it could be between 8-12) with a 45 Minute Run-Time.
From whats been indicated so FAR it seems we may have to WAIT about 4 Hours into it before we get our Xenomorphs, but as SOON as we get them it would Appear they will PLAY a Considerable Role/Screen Time.
Where surely about 60-70% Into the Season it will become Action and Effects Heavy with enough Xenomorphs to Please the Fans who like a more ALIENS kind of Flick.
Its a Case of would the First 30-40% of the Season do enough to ENGAGE the Fans?
Well he could have mutated millions of years ago but idk
Doesnt it show Godzilla already like mutated in the permian, in the prequel novel to G14
Well, that kinda does make sense, but what would each titan be before mutating then?
Well, that officially killed any interest I might have had in the show. And unless Disney go ahead with Covenant 2, I am done with any future Alien projects. I loved Covenant and Prometheus (and time will prove me correct) and to leave those plot threads dangling would be a crime.
The Hollow Earth energy is still relatively unknown in the series, so we don't really know what it's fully capable of. It's possible that the energy could have mutated various natural species on Earth, causing them to evolve into the Titans and other monsters, similar to how nuclear radiation mutated Godzilla in some of the Toho films.
It definitely would make sense for it to be related too the titans somehow, but it's hard for me to believe that it created them.
Tina as Auntie. I still remember her lines.
"What a pair we make raggedy man."
Well even if Goji wasnt in it, it would still be a sequel to GvK.
Again most likely not a GVK sequel. I'm most likely betting at a Kong sequel, as they'll probably wait to see how the Godzilla TV show performs before looking at another movie.
HinikunaGoji
Fair enough. But considering the human and dog spawned xenos don't really look like humans nor dogs, I think is kind of the point.
I notice the Godzilla-xenomorph and the Gamera-xenomorph also have smooth domed heads, so that means they are Stage IV. Curious to see the Stage V "warrior variant" or even the Stage VI "Praetorian variant"
Honestly i prefer theyre girth in these designs, ive seen a lot of xenozillas before that are appropriately emaciated, but it comes at the cost of not looking like goji
QuinnTKO
Well as xenomorphs they will have acid blood, a hivemind connection to all xenomorphs, the ability to egg morph its victims and a possibility of evolving into a queen tier caste.
I tried to look at this theory from various angles, taking into account the Titans’ appearances and relationships with each other, as well as the MonsterVerse’s timeline, the real timeline of life on Earth, and what’s currently been established within the series already.
I am concerned as to HOW this will Connect to the Prequels and Alien Franchise.... is the Xenomorph just going to be used as Fan-Service?
They have to be Careful as the Emphasis away from Xenomorphs and on David had been something that BUGGED some Fans.... they could RISK the same with these Meta-Humans.
Saying that with a TV Show you can get away with such things as you have the RUN-TIME to Explore such things, so if Prometheus was a TV Series then i dont think the more Screen Time on NONE-XENO related things would have been a BANE of Contention as much.
At least the TV Series Time-Line is more known, and it seems it will likely take Place between 2095-2100 which is NOT so in the Near Future as they stated.... which made me Dread its gonna be 2050 kind of Time-Line.
Will the TV show be Canon? Will it Mention either Weyland or Yutani?
With ALIEN we had the Special Order 937 and we was always wondering HOW this came about and HOW MUCH the Company had known about the Xenomorph.
At the TIME of Prometheus what we was left with (looking at RS comments) is that the Derelict/Eggs were on LV-426 and the Event is Related to the OUTBREAK on LV-223 and so it would be WISE to ASSUME a Mission to LV-223 after the LOSS of Contact with the Prometheus would LEAD to the Special Order 937
With the U-Turn of Plot with Alien Covenant then its more Clearer that Special Order 937 had came in Response to the Advent Message that David would send the Company.
The TV Series being SET like BEFORE the Covenant Mission had got UNDER WAY... where we would see Xenomorphs like 5-10 Years before the EVENTS of Alien Covenant... and these Xenomorphs will be on Earth...... makes Davids Advent and Special Order 937 kind of MUTE!
So we have to WONDER/WORRY as to HOW the Xenomorph is Encountered.......
The Prodigy Corporation basically seems to be working on a Blade Runner Replicants meets Universal Solider kind of PLOT....
Enhanced Humanoids...... and so its a PUZZLE to HOW/WHEN and WHY they would Encounter the Xenomorph?
We know we will get a LOT about the Meta-Human Plot, it could seem these Superior Beings are Created for a Purpose but then would be LOOKED DOWN on as the Replicants were in Blade Runner, so we could see a Potential Revolt by these beings who become the A.I Threat...
But then its LATTER in the TV Series that the Xenomorphs come to be.. and so its a case of HOW!
I can only come up with ONE way this could Connect the Franchise.... this is because to ME it seemed the LV-223 Engineers are Essentially the Meta-Versions of our Engineers, so maybe the Prodigy Corp goes to LV-223 and Discovers those Engineers are Genetically Enhanced and they WISH to Replicate this with Humans?
Thats NOT to say THIS is what we will see.... i will say this is WHAT i Speculated that Alien Covenants Sequel may have been about..... David using the Human Embryos to make his OWN like Metahumans.
And so the Black Goo/Engineers Secrets could LEAD to such Artificial Evolution/Enhancements but maybe a Consequence is that the GOO will eventually Evolve to Create Xenomorphs as a Consequence.
And i SUSPECT that THIS is HOW it will all TIE together...
Black Goo comes from Ancient Xenomorphs, the Engineers Experiment to Enhance themselves, these Enhanced Engineers then USED it to Create Deacons to USE on Humans and maybe Engineers before things went to POT.... then David begins to USE the Stuff to Create all Sorts but the Pathogen will ALWAYS go and EVOLVE to Eventually Create the Xenomorph.
HOWEVER..... i would also NOT rule out that instead of LV-223 that the Company would Uncover a Sunken Engineer Ship or Outpost on Earth and this is where things KICK START from.
NOT a FAN of this IDEA... but i can see it being USED as the Connection and HOW we get our Xenomorphs in the TV Show.
Nice to see the Detail the RPG are Expanding, i may have to Invest in some for Source Material to see what their Take is on things.
Be interesting to see how they Expand the Engineers as looking at the Cover Art it seems to show the Deacon. I have a Different View on the Engineers compared to say the Comics....
I dont see them as Big Brute LV-223 Kinds who just Create all that Crazy £"$£% (Horrors like Deacon and say other Xeno-Related Monsters) to just SMITE their Foes..... especially if its JUST to get rid of Humans...
As a Cargo of Sacrificial Goo would do the TRICK, or HOW the Goo was shown to Infect the Engineers in Alien Covenant (Neomorphs are a Result of UN-Activated/Weaponized Urns that had Fallen/Leaked and Infected Fungi/Mold).
Ive always looked at their has to be another REASON beyond to Create Killing Machines... and John Spaights Original Pitch for the Engineers to FIT that bill (Quest for Immortality).
so for me its Interesting as to WHAT the RPG could give us in Regards to LV-223 and its other Purposes as its UNLIKELY we will EVER get these Answers from a Movie. I think its a SHAME that Ridley Scott could NOT have been given the Chance to Expand/Flesh this all out.
They both look insane, but I don't know much about alien. Would they gain any new abilities or powers?
Yeah Godzilla's cool but I chose differently because he's almost everyone's favorite.
It might not have them fight, they could be allies over som new overpowered hollow earth character. Either way, this is amazing
My only complaint is that their xenomorph "offspring" are a bit too fat, xenomorphs tend to be kind of anorexic or skeletal in the girth department
as to why Kong and Big G would fight again possibilities being
1. Mind control either on Kong of Big G weve seen it in a few Toho G movies
2. maybe a Mechani Kong
3. Kong or more stupid power tripping Humans find another Cave/temple and activates something that pisses Big G off or Makes Big G go crazy So Kong has to go calm Big G down or otherwise stop him (least possible as thatd basically be redoing GvsK nearly exactly) slight more possible Kong finds a another G thats younger and they get into a fight and G stomps down to Hollow Earth to save the Youngling
so the metahuman plot is true after all
I thought the UPP's Salaco equivalent uses the original design
