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Must be quite the rush to keep you coming back to any crushing
Ants, Its very addicting to crush ants, but now that Them! is getting a remake, I don't think I'll crush ants ever again.
sonictiger,
....that Godzilla is in it and a main part of the film's story?
Oppisite day be like
sonictiger,
A lot of Godzilla movies don't have Godzilla's name in the title though. That's not exactly the best criteria.
"godzilla: rebirth of mothra"
just typing that out made me laugh. that is the funniest thing Ive heard all bleed'in day.
Hydra is the ultimate kaiju comedian.
Exactly. They don't have the title "Godzilla."
EliteFreakozoid
Actual that's not capitalism, that's corporatism. There is a difference between the two, Capitalism favors competition and dislikes monopolies, Corporatism favors monopolies and dislikes competition. Just a little nitpick.
But yeah, I understand your point about existing lore. But Origin stories are fun though.
It could of course be a blend of both - it's very possible the Cloverfield monster could have brought with it alien pathogens that Earth has never discovered before. There's many ways they could spin this (if they do) that would make sense and could still incorporate the monster itself. Could also involve a human engineered virus to try and combat the Monster(s) which inevitably mutate to attack Humans too. So many possibilities but I'm not opposed to the idea!
Hydra,
The Final Wars poster is on there.
Kong: Skull Island and Rebirth of Mothra are not Godzilla movies.
Yeah, Prometheus and Covenant both feel like massive wasted potential to me. I don't really have a problem with David creating the Xenomorphs, I have a problem with how that clashes with existing lore. I'm not an expert by any means, but wasn't there artwork of more traditional Xenomorphs in Prometheus where the black goo was being kept? Wouldn't that imply that xenomorphs (or at least very similar creatures) already existed prior to David "creating" them?
Honestly, I could be misremembering. The order of operations for David to have created them feels off. I think a lot of sci-fi properties feel like they have to keep establishing more and more lore, as if that should help their story feel more grounded and believable, when in reality it just leads to messy storytelling. Alien's believability stemmed from characters that felt real in a setting that felt like a natural future. The xenomorphs didn't need to be explained, the space jockey didn't need to be explained, Ash didn't need to be explained, and Weyland was fine to be a capitalist company that makes money by exploiting workers at any cost. As soon as you start dragging all of those things into higher-concept sci-fi, the cracks start to appear. It's obvious that the lore introduced in Prometheus and Covenant wasn't always a part of the story, just stuff they're adding on now because they think it's cool with little regard for how it reflects on the existing canon.
I thought that this was supposed to be a direct sequel to the first Cloverfield, so why do they want to make it about a virus instead of a giant monster?
Dark Nebula
Yeah, If only Alan Dean Foster wrote the screenplay to Alien 3, the movie would have definitely been on Tier A
I have a feeling they'll kill off Nebula
sometimes I think film makers are just.... freaking stupid and don't use logic at all
I like alien 3 for what it is. The runner alien was a nice addition to the lore. I'm not a fan of killing off Newt and Hicks at the very beginning.
Alan Dean Foster wasn't a fan of it either, so while writing his novelization of Alien 3 he wanted to keep Newt alive, but have her trapped in her damaged capsule that can go off at any time, and Ripley would have to fight to remain alive in order to sustain her. He also wanted other things for his adaptation to differ from the film, such as giving each prisoner a backstory, but the film producers rejected all of his planned material and told him to stay close to the film script and wasn't allowed to alter the storyline.
If only the film was like this.
i mean i get the plot, its just that why there there was a locust plot :/ jurassic world dominion was in my opinion forced like gvk
Killing Newt was a bummer. I should say I still enjoy the movie, just not as much as the others I put above it.
Xenotaris, I dont think david creating the necromorphs is peoples main problem with that movie. I don't mind that at all. David is the best part of that movie. I also like the neomorphs too honestly. The problem is the movie completely undercuts the ending of prometheus by killing off the inhabitants of the space jockey home world and therefore not answering any of the fun questions prometheus set up and also making david a weird genocidal maniac, which I felt messes up his arc from prometheus. the characters are also extremely generic and uninteresting other than david himself. I feel like prometheus got made fun of because of some valid reasons, and some very dumb reasons so ridley scott totally abandoned everything that made it interesting for Covenant and ended up taking away almost everything that made Prometheus interesting.
Cutie Hugsploder
Its okay. Alien 3 had alot of things going for it, mostly atmosphere and a sick new Alien design. Unfortunately my only beef with Alien 3 is them killing off Newt and Hicks then later Ripley.
the puppet is practical but the composite isn't. I know its not cgi. I was using the term improperly.
Hydra, Are you saying you didnt love watching mothra drown for like 5 solid minutes in the rebirth of mothra movie? lol. If you love the american king of the monsters movie with ghidorah I would recommend the original Ghidorah the three headed monster movie. It is a fun time. good luck on your kaiju movie journey.
Cutie Hugsploder
But Puppetry IS a Practical Effect along with man-in-a-suit, animatronic, stop-motion and go motion. CGI means Computer Generated Imagery
Cool Godzilla
Alien Covenant, I know a lot of people dislike Alien Covenant because Ridley Scott wanted David to be the creator but I think David merely made his own xenomorph offshoot basing them off of the Engineer's xenomorphs.
I also liked the Neomorphs, now the human characters... I thought they were okay but I don't watch these movies for the humans.
side note. all the special features on DVD's were awesome and it seems like we have lost that on blu rays and that is a huge bummer.
The genetically engineered prehistoric locust plot was quite dumb but kind of in character for BioSyn but at the same time still dumb. Biosyn wanted to be the only corporation to be in charge of producing Food. I mean in the books Biosyn were careless assholes but the movie turned them into Umbrella Chemical Corporation while the previous movies turned InGen/Masrani Global into the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
Also I didn't like how human centric Dominion and even Fallen Kingdom was compared to past Jurassic Park movies. remember the good old times were the human villains were insignificant to the killer dinosaurs. Remember there was no such thing as a good or bad dinosaur? they were just animals trying to survive
Dark Nebula yeah that is true. I remember watching a ton of behind the scenes stuff on the dvd box set of all the movies I had before I loaned it to an asshole friend. I like the suit but the bad composite does fuck it up. I just use "CGI" as a blanket term for any non practical effect. I should watch 3 again. definitely the one I have seen the least because I just dont remember enjoying it as much but maybe it deserves another chance since I havent seen it in 10 years.
Rebirth of Mothra is a stand-alone trilogy not really connected to Godzilla beside sharing a Ghidorah as their adversary.
